*read the wall of text*

how about try it out before make those thread (and why we need another one in the first place ? )

Even removing most of the debuffs, the majority of which had a debateable efficiency anyway, you're still bound to 15 actions between job abilities and spells, for a whole group of 50 levels... that's really wrong.
it is 15 + 10 = 25

They promised CNJ > WHM and THM > BLM. That's of course wrong because of many reasons, it should have been CNJ > WHM + BLM and THM > something else. But of course they couldn't help it because it wouldn't be "balanced" to add 2 jobs to CNJ and 1 to every other class (altough eventually that will happen, just not in time for 1.21 of course)
that is a way to make it, but the DEV choose another way to make the game so no, neither you or "them" are wrong