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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Sadly.

    He outright admitted in an interview that Au Ra women are his favourite...so I have little doubt that he is responsible for the shift from the original concept art to their current design.

    Viera will likely undergo a similar makeover. I don't think this game needs any additional playable races, anyway. I'd sooner see some additional character customisation options added to those that exist already.
    Actually, they stated a while back Au Ra aesthetic were changed due to how JP players overwhelmingly dislike bestial race options. I believe complications with armour also led to the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, they stated a while back Au Ra aesthetic were changed due to how JP players overwhelmingly dislike bestial race options. I believe complications with armour also led to the change.
    And yet who has the largest consistent number of requests for a Bangaa race?

    Hmm, the JP community...

    At this point I'm too used to the dainty Au'ra females to care much, but that hardly seems consistent as a primary warrant on Yoshida's part.
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    I would like to see Tank "tanking" more and Healer "healing" more

    Give Tanks and Healers more CDs and make the boss rape Tank HP as their own b**ches so we can tank instead of DPS and Healers can heal instead of DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, they stated a while back Au Ra aesthetic were changed due to how JP players overwhelmingly dislike bestial race options. I believe complications with armour also led to the change.
    Which is sad since recent data showed that we have more NA players than JP players and together with EU, the western part makes up the majority of the playerbase. And its not like they already dont have their cute option. I honestly hope that the next race will be something less cute otherwise I just see their introduction as useless..then use your time and budget to increase the options of the existing races. (Not sure if that is an unpopular opinion or not)

    *Holds shields up* New unpopular opinion: I hate it when people use threads for their own personal conversation. Its fine if its one post or if you at least have a bit of the thread topic in it but posts full of no usefull information for the thread itself annoys me a great deal because I like reading about opinions on a topic but not about something soo off topic. When you have a thread with one page of good talk and then 3 pages of off topic it kinda wasted my time.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Which is sad since recent data showed that we have more NA players than JP players and together with EU, the western part makes up the majority of the playerbase. And its not like they already dont have their cute option.
    Unfortunately, even in the west the fandom for those types of races are still very much in the minority. Look at other games: you don't see many people playing animalistic options unless they're: a) cute or b) got a humanoid aspect to it. That doesn't mean folks should stop petitioning for it: you should keep going. However you're walking up a higher hill than you think.

    As for the cute thing: people want more cute options for the same reason people want bestial options - the current options don't fit. The Au Ra were an attempt at an elegant type of cuteness, but not everyone likes the sleepy-look they tend to have or that they're trapped into forced face/horn pairings. And Miqo'te are the energetic cute race, but not everyone wants to be a cat. And not everyone wants to be as tiny as a Lalafell and risk big changes to their game just for the sake of being cute. That's why people are hoping for at least one more traditionally cute race that can bridge the gap between au ra/miqo'te and Lalafell.

    This next bit isn't against you personally, it's just my final point: you telling people who want a cute race they should be happy with what they've got is no different than folks saying you shouldn't get a bestial race because you have "fierce" races in Roes and Highlanders already. It makes no sense. We want more races because what's out now doesn't feel like "home" yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    Unfortunately, even in the west the fandom for those types of races are still very much in the minority. Look at other games: you don't see many people playing animalistic options unless they're: a) cute or b) got a humanoid aspect to it. That doesn't mean folks should stop petitioning for it: you should keep going. However you're walking up a higher hill than you think.

    As for the cute thing: people want more cute options for the same reason people want bestial options - the current options don't fit. The Au Ra were an attempt at an elegant type of cuteness, but not everyone likes the sleepy-look they tend to have or that they're trapped into forced face/horn pairings. And Miqo'te are the energetic cute race, but not everyone wants to be a cat. And not everyone wants to be as tiny as a Lalafell and risk big changes to their game just for the sake of being cute. That's why people are hoping for at least one more traditionally cute race that can bridge the gap between au ra/miqo'te and Lalafell.

    This next bit isn't against you personally, it's just my final point: you telling people who want a cute race they should be happy with what they've got is no different than folks saying you shouldn't get a bestial race because you have "fierce" races in Roes and Highlanders already. It makes no sense. We want more races because what's out now doesn't feel like "home" yet.
    I'm not sure, khajiit and argonians in ESO are decently popular. Orcs, nords and wood elfs are on the bottom and they are very humaniod, especially the nord. Even very beastly options like Worgen and Tauren in WoW, as low res as they are, are appreciated.

    Its not smart to write off less humaniod races so quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlogDog View Post
    I'm not sure, khajiit and argonians in ESO are decently popular. Orcs, nords and wood elfs are on the bottom and they are very humaniod, especially the nord. Even very beastly options like Worgen and Tauren in WoW, as low res as they are, are appreciated.

    Its not smart to write off less humaniod races so quickly.
    As someone who doesn't play ESO, does race affect your stats, and if it does are khajiit and argonians considered to have good stats compared to other races? Thats something that can cause a person to choose a certain race in a game even if thy like the other options more in appearance. XIV's racial stats are gone if I remember right, and even when they were around were so minuscule as to not even matter.

    Also I know there is something about Argonians and lust? I've never played any ES game so I know very little but if that isn't just a thing inside the game world that would put Argornian on a "desirable looking" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    As someone who doesn't play ESO, does race affect your stats, and if it does are khajiit and argonians considered to have good stats compared to other races? Thats something that can cause a person to choose a certain race in a game even if thy like the other options more in appearance. XIV's racial stats are gone if I remember right, and even when they were around were so minuscule as to not even matter.

    Also I know there is something about Argonians and lust? I've never played any ES game so I know very little but if that isn't just a thing inside the game world that would put Argornian on a "desirable looking" thing.

    There are racials that are stronger than FFXIV's, some can eventually be overcome with high CP, much like in FF how when you are low level your racials make more of a difference with your stats. Even so people unless they do endgame mostly play what they want. I only know argonians offhand and they have a lot of bonus to healing and potions so they make alright heals and tanks.

    You could say its simply racial for all the popular "beasts" in games like Charr in GW2 or the ESO examples I gave but i think if you look at the general population for MMOs nowadays most people don't min max and do pick form over function, especially casual players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlogDog View Post
    I'm not sure, khajiit and argonians in ESO are decently popular. Orcs, nords and wood elfs are on the bottom and they are very humaniod, especially the nord. Even very beastly options like Worgen and Tauren in WoW, as low res as they are, are appreciated.

    Its not smart to write off less humaniod races so quickly.
    Huge reason for the popularity of those races in ESO is the racial bonuses. Khajit and Argonians have some of the better racials for pve and pvp, respectively. Nords have the least useful racials in that game. Those sorts of bonuses have a bit more impact on characters in that game than the racial stat differences here (that at this point may as well not exist).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post

    This next bit isn't against you personally, it's just my final point: you telling people who want a cute race they should be happy with what they've got is no different than folks saying you shouldn't get a bestial race because you have "fierce" races in Roes and Highlanders already. It makes no sense. We want more races because what's out now doesn't feel like "home" yet.
    I just want more different races and not another version that just has some animal ears and a tail and most of the rest just being a normal hyur. Heck I would have no problem if they would use the tribes more and give us one tribe that is more cute and the other tribe more beastly. They could have easily given the Xaela the fiercer looks since they are a war race and make the Raen the cuter ones since they mostly live with other races. Thus both sides would be happy.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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