Why don't we have a normal raid roulette Yet?

[Kazrah]

Talking about the normal raids like Alexander 1-12 normal and eventually the Omega normal tier raids that are basically trial roulette difficulty not coils

Coils are normal raids. The first ones.

Standard raid roulette would be interesting to see though.

[Rita1989]

Coils are normal raids. The first ones.

Coils are closer to what savage raids are now, they introduced the normal raids because coil was too difficult for most of the community.

[Kazrah]

Coils are closer to what savage raids are now, they introduced the normal raids because coil was too difficult for most of the community.

Just because they had a higher degree of difficulty compared to more recent raids, they're still normal raids. Hard, yes, but they have normal mode and savage mode just like the other standard raids.

[basketofseals]

Just because they had a higher degree of difficulty compared to more recent raids, they're still normal raids. Hard, yes, but they have normal mode and savage mode just like the other standard raids.

They're not normal raids in any way except labeling. HW and SB normal raids were implemented with the intention that even the most casual players could just waltz in there with and be expected to clear it in short order. That's not Coil by any means.

[Dualblade]

Just because they had a higher degree of difficulty compared to more recent raids, they're still normal raids. Hard, yes, but they have normal mode and savage mode just like the other standard raids.

Only Second Coil had Savage and that was ment to be a challenge the best raiders via being unnerfed AND what the devs originally intended before scaling back prior to release, instead of just the norm for them. Coil itself is harder unsynced compared to Alex and Omega normal because it was what we now consider Savage, or failing that not too far below Alex Savage.

(also for some reason this has been said in a LOT of threads for the past week. Its really wierd)

[HyoMinPark]

Coils are normal raids. The first ones.

Coil was actually the ‘Savage’ content in ARR; Second Coil Savage was kind of like a beta-version of Ultimate, in which it was tuned higher than the ‘non-Savage’ named version, which was considered the 8-man Savage content at the time. Second Coil Savage was how the developers originally wanted the fight to be tuned. There was no ‘normal-mode’ 8-mans in ARR, hence the future division of normal and Savage. It was made because so many people missed out on the Coil story because it wasn’t a casual, “normal-mode” raid like Alexander Normal or Deltascape/Sigmascape Normal, and not everyone had the ability/time/group to do the content.

Just because they had a higher degree of difficulty compared to more recent raids, they're still normal raids. Hard, yes, but they have normal mode and savage mode just like the other standard raids.

Again, Second Coil (Savage) is how the developers originally wanted the fight to be tuned—a beta-version Ultimate or a “Savage-mode Savage”, if you will. But Binding Coil and Final Coil had no Binding Coil (Savage)-/Final Coil (Savage)-named equivalents because they were the Savage raids during their respective tiers.


That being said, they really should implement an 8-man normal mode raid roulette. It won’t include Coil, but it would be great for filling up queues for newbies, as well as give us another daily roulette option for acquiring tomestones. I’m not opposed to more variety.