so whens Alphinaud gonna die or sent offscreen for a long time?

[Kyuuen]

They are a different type of twins than you and your sister. They are identical types and you two are fraternal.

That's also not accurate.

Identical implies they are the same, can't be the same while being different genders. It's purely happen stance that fraternal twins look alike.

[Bobs]

I don't know man.

As a Protagonist we are insufferable as well. Always willing to take the next mission.
I bet the NPCs talk behind our backs when we leave the room after saying yes to go kill a god or two.

[Jandor]

Except... I mean, the reason Beast Tribes summon primals in the first place is because they feel like they have no control over their fates, are not being represented or listened to fairly, and are being threatened by the governments of other people, so deliberately excluding them would mean actively perpetuating the mindset that produced said primals and tempered tribes in the first place... Like, Lyse's entire point in that situation was that she wants to break that specific cycle in order to create genuine peace, not just "peace for some people."

Inviting the Ananta is a great idea, letting the tempered Ananta attend is not only pointless, but dumb and risky, and allowing it very predictably blew up in their faces.

[WilhelmWhite]

They are a different type of twins than you and your sister. They are identical types and you two are fraternal.

........... Male and female twins cannot be identical............. Why do you not know this?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I don't know man.

As a Protagonist we are insufferable as well. Always willing to take the next mission.
I bet the NPCs talk behind our backs when we leave the room after saying yes to go kill a god or two.

That's the life of adventure. Can't imagine an expansion or trial where we just chill on the beach.

Hmm. . . Costa Del Sol (Extreme). "Hot Sand" aoes, beach bunny add phase, swimming "DPS" race. Rewards are beach themed weapon glams and new, dyeable swimwear. Possible giant crab mount. Skip shore or disband.

^ SE! Next Moonfire event right there. Please look forward to it.

[sarehptar]

Inviting the Ananta is a great idea, letting the tempered Ananta attend is not only pointless, but dumb and risky, and allowing it very predictably blew up in their faces.

You realize that the tempered Ananta don't feel like the non-tempered Ananta speak for them, right? That they're two distinct groups? That's like inviting one half of a neighborhood and then claiming that you've fairly represented the whole neighborhood.

Furthermore, did Lyse have any choice? She was a victim of the "idiot ball" plot line--Square needed a dramatic instance to end their patch, so a dramatic instance they were going to add, regardless of any and all precautions the characters could have taken. Were stupid decisions made? Sure. Why did no one sweep every part of the room looking for any potential hazards just in case? Why did Thancred and Y'shtola who have performed nigh-miracles in battle before suddenly struggle with some run-of-the-mill tempered guards? But blaming Lyse for trying to target the root cause of primal summonings in the first place is hardly any more fair than blaming your own player character for stupidly going along with it without bothering to even survey the area for random crystals... (Of course, I should say this tongue-in-cheek: I think this was just an example of bad writing, which can happen when the events of the plot are dictated by a need to add interactive elements for player characters.)

[WilhelmWhite]

Not entirely true. While it maybe true in your case, but there are plenty of instances where male/female twins do look alike.

What I said was true. I never said fraternal twins couldn't look alike, I just said they couldn't EXACTLY alike. Look at Alphinaud and Alisae's face and body before they changed costumes in HW. Literally the only difference is Alisae's lips are a tiny bit darker than her brother's. Everything else is exactly the same. As male and female, their face and body shapes should not look like a mirror image, but it does. Even male/female twins irl that look similar at least have different bodies/jaw lines etc.

[Bobs]

That's the life of adventure. Can't imagine an expansion or trial where we just chill on the beach.

Hmm. . . Costa Del Sol (Extreme). "Hot Sand" aoes, beach bunny add phase, swimming "DPS" race. Rewards are beach themed weapon glams and new, dyeable swimwear. Possible giant crab mount. Skip shore or disband.

^ SE! Next Moonfire event right there. Please look forward to it.

Well ya, we are going to say Yes because it's the game. Fourth wall reasons.

When we have a "Vision." It's like 10 min long or more. I can just imagine all the NPCs looking at us "Is he done yet, nope."

[Kyuuen]

What I said was true. I never said fraternal twins couldn't look alike, I just said they couldn't EXACTLY alike. Look at Alphinaud and Alisae's face and body before they changed costumes in HW. Literally the only difference is Alisae's lips are a tiny bit darker than her brother's. Everything else is exactly the same. As male and female, their face and body shapes should not look like a mirror image, but it does. Even male/female twins irl that look similar at least have different bodies/jaw lines etc.

Fair enough. But personally Alisae's facial features seem a bit more rounded while Alphinauld's seem more sharper, but perhaps that's me trying to see a difference that isn't there.

[Jandor]

You realize that the tempered Ananta don't feel like the non-tempered Ananta speak for them, right? That they're two distinct groups? That's like inviting one half of a neighborhood and then claiming that you've fairly represented the whole neighborhood.

Why should we care what the tempered Ananta feel like? They're thralls, they can't stop being thralls, and their devotion to a primal means their goals are fundamentally incompatible with ours.