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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's not numerical, it's psychological. Rewarding anger doesn't make it go away, it amplifies it.
    Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.

    Likewise, there should be enough medium and large houses so the FCs aren't using the small houses - as those houses should be exclusively for players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.
    So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.
    But.. why? Other than the gardens, which I do agree should be 3 plots for everyone, there is no major technical difference between a small and a large for a FC. Beyond that point, there is literally no reason for a FC to have priority on larges beyond some vague reasoning of "space", in which case you'll need to start policing FCs based on numbers of players who actively use the house - good luck with that one. And now with the option to teleport to friends houses, personal homes can be just as much of a gathering spot. So it comes full circle; there's no argument beyond "I want a large and I deserve it more than that guy because of feelings".
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.
    But then how will they satisfy their thirst for blood?

    Housing should definitely be removed at this point and workshops be instances at Grand company locations. Maybe then, after they notice the absence they learn to appreciate it
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  5. #45
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    Given that legacy servers ( and a few others ) have insanely higher populations than others ( as some have been closed for over a year now ) would be nice if SE at least treated it as such vs just expanding as a global, it'd def help the larger populated areas, though again it'd probably just abused anyways, but just a thought on that.

    I.e high populated servers have more wards. Though honestly all this is doing is make the community debate/fight over how they utilize the minimum of what SE is giving us, vs trying to tackle the problem with how SE is going about it. For the most part people without are hoping to further limit and reduce which only screws more people and just creates discord imo especially for those that got"grandfathered in"

    Yeah we've got an issue, but it'd be great if housing were on its own servers that way they could populate it more, given that they disable them time to time when there's high load given the servers they share w/ other map servers. When you've done a ton in game a house is a nice way to keep u occupied in between content, such as decorating, crafting, airships ( and subs now ) ( for FC"s at least ) as for personal more decorative/gardening.

    For those trying to limit things even further that just puts a bigger grin on SE's face to the point they don't have to do anything but let the community divide itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.
    Ok, you fail at reading comprehension, as the medium personal houses should be left alone...

    But other than that, given enough time, yes SE should enforce restrictions on who gets what. Throw in more wards (like twice as many as we have now), remove the hoarders (cause they're part of the problem), and then there should be enough supply for everyone to at least get the house size they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sothis View Post
    But.. why? Other than the gardens, which I do agree should be 3 plots for everyone, there is no major technical difference between a small and a large for a FC.
    The housing system was originally intended for FCs, and following that original intention, the largest plots of land should be FCs. That's my opinion and no amount of QQ from you (or the rest of the whiners here) is going to change it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sothis View Post
    Beyond that point, there is literally no reason for a FC to have priority on larges beyond some vague reasoning of "space", in which case you'll need to start policing FCs based on numbers of players who actively use the house - good luck with that one.
    You track it by what owns it (FC or personal), and have automated server scripts that do the pruning/kicking - all completely impartial and will guarantee the rules will be enforced fairly for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
    For those trying to limit things even further that just puts a bigger grin on SE's face to the point they don't have to do anything but let the community divide itself.
    The community already did that when https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/ was created.

    I just want SE to clean up the mess left behind with the 4.2 buy restrictions and let all housing owners (new ones after 4.2 and the ones before 4.2) to have the same amount of housing so we don't have the land barons of Mataeus denying a lot of people a house just because two greedy souls want a ward all to themselves.
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    The housing system was originally intended for FCs, and following that original intention, the largest plots of land should be FCs.
    "Original intentions matter!"

    The age of multiple personal and FC houses per account has ended, and none of those thieves should retain their ill-gotten gains.
    "nvm; times change"

    So which is it, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    "Original intentions matter!"



    "nvm; times change"

    So which is it, then?
    It's like a bloody kangaroo court here...

    Here we go again: All I want is for SE to enforce the housing restrictions on the thieves they grandfathered into the housing system. All players should have exactly one personal house per server per account, and the rest should be forcibly released freeing up housing for more players. The same should go for the FC houses - ending the ability for these thieves to own more than two houses per server per account.
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