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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    One thing to remember when it comes to older FF move names is that some changes are due to character limitations. Thats actually why we originally had Fire3 instead of Firaga in the original FF. I believe it was FFVII when this stopped being as big of a deal because technology evolves.

    Of course some things, both ability and just localazations end up staying around due to nostalgia. Like Spoony Bards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    Truthfully, this kind of thing would be better suited for a Hildebrand quest. It's entirely possible that Doomtrain could make a second appearance.
    Yeah, while there have been a few silly moments in the story, the Hilde quests are where the slapstick is.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Nahctyrn Bhaldornnsyn
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    It was just a dream.







    god damn it... :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    Truthfully, this kind of thing would be better suited for a Hildebrand quest. It's entirely possible that Doomtrain could make a second appearance.
    I'm afraid the only appearance Doomtrain has made is FFVIII.

    So good luck kiddo.
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    It's absolutely surprising to me that they elected to put a Phantom Train in the game and not integrate some form of suplexing it into the fight, or even in a cutscene after the boss had died. The train is only a popular boss because you could suplex it. Like, if suplex was forced to miss every time you tried it because the boss is a train, no one would care about the boss. It would have no special, memorable features about it other then "You can phoenix down it and kill it", and it wasn't hard enough to leave a lasting impression of "This boss was super hard, I hated that boss". I imagine that, without suplexing it, the Phantom Train would be as forgotten as the Tunnel Armor, whose only features were "You can kill it with the Thunder Rod if you don't open the correct treasure chest the first time through the cave" and "This is how you use Runic". It is absolutely disappointing.

    I suppose Hildebrand is our only hope now. I would be fine with Godbert suplexing the Phantom Train.
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    Make a really high budget CGI movie of the suplex
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    I'm glad.

    The ability to suplex the Phantom Train was vaguely amusing at the time. Yet like so many jokes it became a dead horse that was brought back to life and beaten again and again and again.

    I never found the Phantom Train iconic because of the suplex ability having a weird effect. I found it iconic because it was a bittersweet story arc in FF6 with great music and an unsettling atmosphere. I grinned like a fool when I saw the true fans of FF6 being catered to instead of the sort who want everything to be as ridiculous and contrived as Hildibrand's adventures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I grinned like a fool when I saw the true fans of FF6 being catered to
    So the people who can enjoy a little bit of comedy thrown into a more serious moment aren't true fans of FF6? Is that what I'm supposed to understand from this post? Because a lot of stories inject a little bit of humor into more serious parts of their story just to ease up on the tension a little bit before continuing to pile more on.

    I fail to see how I'm not a "true fan" of FFVI because I can appreciate a good joke, intentional or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I'm afraid the only appearance Doomtrain has made is FFVIII.

    So good luck kiddo.
    Doomtrain is simply another name for the Phantom Train, same as Ghost Train was another name used for it (although the first time it was used was a mistranslation). Phantom/Doomtrain has been in multiple FFs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiriel_Basanda View Post
    So the people who can enjoy a little bit of comedy thrown into a more serious moment aren't true fans of FF6? Is that what I'm supposed to understand from this post? Because a lot of stories inject a little bit of humor into more serious parts of their story just to ease up on the tension a little bit before continuing to pile more on.

    I fail to see how I'm not a "true fan" of FFVI because I can appreciate a good joke, intentional or otherwise.
    If you were a 'true fan' you wouldn't be bothered by the lack of a dumb reference to the suplex thing since simply having the Phantom Train show up in the first place is what most people who enjoyed FF6 wanted to see. It's just a case of people being ungrateful.
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