To the Devs: Communication is failing!

[TinnySnips]

Sure, the information could be a bit more fleshed out, but I wouldn't dare make it complete. Can you imagine what would happen to these forums if casting costs were listed; casting costs will be based on current class level. Imagine for a moment that they posted the casting cost for cure, which would be a formula, probably resembling this:

15 + 1.8*cLvl

I just imagined it, here's what it looks like:

SE, please give us an actual number for casting costs!

This new system is stupid. We shouldn't have to do math to...

OMG! Why should my cure cost over 800mp at level 50!?

So if my conjurer is level 20, but I'm on my level 50 warrior...

I think they probably had an internal meeting regarding the communique and decided not to list formulas for potency, casting cost and duration in an effort to avoid confusion. As for the absence of the names, I think it's possible that they haven't decided on names for everything yet, so they listed no names for the sake of consistency of presentation. I do agree that traits were noticeably absent, but I'm sure there was a good reason for it (such as them not yet being completed).

I personally don't see where SE made communication errors which warrant the type of reaction we're seeing from the community. Except for 1 exceptionally vague communication regarding water, SE has been pretty clear on the nature of the changes as well as the purpose. If they have made a big communication mistake, it was in thinking that we could receive this information with a measure of patience and maturity. Of course, a large part of the community, on both sides of the issue, are quite capable of being mature and patient, but there is a very vocal minority creating quite a clamor.

[Jinko]

Tinnysnips they wouldn't have to do that they could give examples of the cost of cure at lvl 4 (or whatever level you learn it) at lvl 20 and at lvl 50.

The player could then extrapolate between the lines, sure some may not beable to do that but its a whole lot less confusing than giving us a calculation.

Of course, a large part of the community, on both sides of the issue, are quite capable of being mature and patient, but there is a very vocal minority creating quite a clamor.

This is true the disgruntled will always make the most noise.

[LuxLex]

Mage changes make me a sad puppy. Am I the only person that gets excited about learning new spells as I level up? sorry but 5 spells at 50 is {too weak}

[Lucifer]

Mage changes make me a sad puppy. Am I the only person that gets excited about learning new spells as I level up? sorry but 5 spells at 50 is {too weak}

Welcome to the new age of mmo gaming.
Oh but they are going to add more stuff a whole year from now. Hurr.

[AmyRae]

No it's entirely the fault of the community. If they can't resist pointless speculation and whining then how is it anyone's fault but their own?
If this community had proven itself mature and capable I could understand blaming SE for being needlessly opaque but I've been here since day 1 and this community has done nothing but whine and moan even when they got their way.
This community is like a spoiled, petulant child upset that their new toy isn't three new toys.
I can't believe SE even bothers to post because it's not like anything constructive is coming out of this forum.

And yet, SE created the very forum where they encourage this pointless speculation and subsequently moderate it and comb it for whatever useful tidbits they can find in there. To blame the community for engaging in this is like blaming the flies for being caught in that intentionally left out honey.

I believe the phrase, "working as intended," applies.

As for SE being "byzantine" with their communication, I'll leave that up to speculators to speculate. I would suggest that a perfectly satisfactory level of communication that would please everyone on upcoming patch changes is impossible.

Is it better for them to:
a) wait until they have all the information on the final changes?
- No, because people want a preview of what to expect

b) provide an outline of expected changes early without all the details filled in
- No, because people will just speculate on what they don't understand and a lot of misconceptions will float around until the patch.

c) provide a detailed list of expected changes early even though it will likely be implemented very differently in the final version due to balance issues
- No, because people will claim SE can't keep it's "promises" (even if they explicitly say they aren't making promises).

It doesn't matter what they do, there will always be people who think it isn't enough.

[kwestro]

No it's entirely the fault of the community. If they can't resist pointless speculation and whining then how is it anyone's fault but their own?
If this community had proven itself mature and capable I could understand blaming SE for being needlessly opaque but I've been here since day 1 and this community has done nothing but whine and moan even when they got their way.
This community is like a spoiled, petulant child upset that their new toy isn't three new toys.
I can't believe SE even bothers to post because it's not like anything constructive is coming out of this forum.

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Agreed 100%. There's a lot of grown-up toddlers with families in this forum crying excessively everyday over speculations.

[Sephrick]

Imagine for a moment that they posted the casting cost for cure, which would be a formula, probably resembling this

Or they could say, "Cure (Sorry, 'CNJ Mag 1') costs a base 100 mp and an additional 5 mp for every level over (what ever level it is attained). At 30, CNJs receive A trait that reduces the cost to 2 additional mp per level. It's base heal is X hp and gains an additional Y hp per level. CNJs receive a trait at 10 that boost amount healed by z."

No formulas to confuse people, just facts for us to discuss and clearly understand.

The more concise the information we get is, the more likely we are to have a quality, rational discussion about it. Releasing partial information is troll fodder because all we can do is debate "what ifs" without any facts other than "in FF#, SE did this."

[Kinghoran]

The reason you feel like you're being ignored is because 20 people just like you see a similar rant, repost it with their flare and then whine when nobody answers them directly.

[Burn]

"It will be fixed in 2.0"

2.0 will be full of miracles. 2.0 will cure cancer and diabetes.

[Babydoll]

"It will be fixed in 2.0"

2.0 will be full of miracles. 2.0 will cure cancer and diabetes.

lol yeah seriously...

I am getting that feel from it too. >.< Well...if they do not want to be more open with what they plan on adding/changing to the game..when people stop playing (again) SE will once again learn the hard way. I'm not saying for sure people will stop playing..who knows, the game could be going in a real positive direction...I just sit back and watch mostly.