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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    You did forget a few kinds. For example, in the FC category, the "i dont care at all about fcs, i did make a fake one to snatch a house that i can resell for 100 millions on reddit". And in the individuals category "i know very well that when the very few houses, all small ones, remaining will be put on sale i will be at work/school irl. And that when i will launch the game again there will be nothing left for me to buy, despite all the efforts i did make to gather enough gils or how long i have been playing the game".

    In short you are way too optimistic in the way you see things, this doesn't fit the reality XD
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    Alevia Rohan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    You did forget a few kinds. For example, in the FC category, the "i dont care at all about fcs, i did make a fake one to snatch a house that i can resell for 100 millions on reddit". And in the individuals category "i know very well that when the very few houses, all small ones, remaining will be put on sale i will be at work/school irl. And that when i will launch the game again there will be nothing left for me to buy, despite all the efforts i did make to gather enough gils or how long i have been playing the game".

    In short you are way too optimistic in the way you see things, this doesn't fit the reality XD
    The idea is that people who play the game without abusing the system should all fall closely within one of those spaces.

    Also the "two" you listed are a small part of the population. Scalpers can only reasonably sell to someone looking to relocate, they can't be paid to relinquish a plot and have their buyer guarantee the purchase of it. That vastly reduces the amount of scalping happening. Of course it does and still will, but the incentive is much harder to obtain, which is precisely the point of adding hurdles. People will always find ways to abuse the system, all you can do is try to preempt that as much as possible.

    And as for those who can't be there when the houses unlock - what reasonable solution do you propose? A lot of players who actively want a house will stay up all night or make arrangements to be available at the time, so the number who actively can't make it at the right time is much smaller than those it inconveniences.

    If you're going to come up with the "add more wards/instanced housing" solution, you're beating a dead horse. But going into detail on why is a subject for another thread, the point is to deal within the framework we know they can operate.

    Frankly, I think you're being way too pessimistic about the situation and your two examples are such a small percentage of the larger player base. Yes abuse is still happening (looking at you Angered), but as a whole the situation is well set up for the long term.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    Now, finally... finally... after 4 years of toil and work you have a brand new chance. And this time, the taste of success is sweet indeed as you make the house you always wanted your permanent home. Celebrate and feel no regret. You've earned your victory.
    Congrats dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    If you're going to come up with the "add more wards/instanced housing" solution, you're beating a dead horse. But going into detail on why is a subject for another thread, the point is to deal within the framework we know they can operate.
    I am glad to know that the framework that they can operate is just terrible, old fashioned, poorly managed, and yet poorly done. People will keep saying add wards because that's all Square Enix can do now at this point. And people are saying add instance because that would resolve all of these problems where devs are not being choked by players who are threatening to quit or send hostile feedbacks like every hour.

    Defending bad game, engine and development team for this at this point is just being a terrible fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    Congrats dude!
    Thank you! <3
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    Reyn Wilde
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    I love this post. You accurately capture the journey many of us have had with housing. It is the most optimistic way of describing why I'm not very sympathetic toward fairly new FCs that are upset that I was able to relocate as a private owner.

    I can't tell you the number of times I've woken up at an ungodly hour to be among the first logged in for a patch. Not just for housing rushes, but for making the gil to afford housing.

    My FC started as a small. Eventually, we upgraded to a large, at a time that meant losing unique furniture, loading everything else up into our inventories, and blowing up a house with no return or guarantee that the lot we wanted would still be there. And paying Legacy server prices! It was a gamble, and it's not even a prime large spot, but we're proud of what we earned and have come to know it as home.

    It was the same story for my personal house: settling for what I could get, while saving and checking every day for my dream plot to open. Attending every early morning housing war, dumping money into minor upgrades.

    Today, I was finally able to get my dream plot. Lavender Beds 11, I've had my eye on you since the wards were empty because not even the most prestigious FCs could afford a house. You are mine now.

    It really has felt like a progression. Newer FCs might be upset that I was able to upgrade my personal lot, and they had to settle. But I've played the settling game for years, and I feel like I deserve this reward for sticking to it. I'm thrilled that I no longer need to keep a cache of gil aside in case this plot opens, and that I can sleep in next patch. I'm not going to apologize. There's plenty of smalls available for others to begin the same journey, and I wish the best of luck to them.

    Thanks for remembering me, SE.
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