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  1. #11
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Perhaps the rmt business is picking up with the new products and new houses being added each patch? Have to come up with that 600m gil ransom for a shirogane mansion in the next 30 minutes somehow right?
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  2. #12
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If bot FCs are business as usual, what's the counter-explanation for the rise in bot FC generation?
    The chart in OP is for all FCs made not just bot FCs. Sure house flippers might have made shell FCs to make a profit but there's a lot of legit people just looking for a (second?) house making them too.
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  3. #13
    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Midgardsormr
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Just a bunch of bots revving up to pour all their funds/gathered goods into an fc chest so they can pool it together before shipping it off to some halfwit that feels the need to break ToS because they want something but don't want to take the time to earn it.
    this. The gold sellers form FCs so they can use the company bank to transfer gil around quickly. There is a limit of 1 million per trade or 2 million per mail, so using the FC bank is much faster since there is no deposit or withdraw limit.

    It would be counter productive for gold selling sites to buy houses and try and sell them to individuals considering they can earn gil faster and offload it faster than house flipping.
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  4. #14
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    Lena Vales
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    Phoenix
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Not everyone wants to buy a plot + FC. More players want personal houses instead
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  5. #15
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    MizArai's Avatar
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    Yui Savage
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sashazor View Post
    Bots are generally not interested in purchasing land, I've never seen a plot owned by a bot and I live in an enormous server. Also, with the timer in place, there's no way they can efficiently sell a house. Bot FCs are generally done for them to dump money into an FC chest that buyers sometimes request.
    They can totally sell the demolition to someone trying to relocate, as the RNG timer does NOT apply to relocations.
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  6. #16
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    Yui Savage
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If bot FCs are business as usual, what's the counter-explanation for the rise in bot FC generation? Normal for this time of year? An error due to the short time frame in the data set?

    I suppose you might argue that it also correlates to 4.2 in general, perhaps the uptick is just a by-product of getting their product ready for the influx of new/returning players with the new content. I could certainly grant that. In fact, now that I'm considering it, may be even more likely than housing related (and may be easily verified if you could look back further at FC generation prior to previous patch releases).

    But, lacking the data, I'll reserve judgement until I see if new housing rules/restrictions have changed any approaches of house flippers.
    I'd guess they were anticipating higher gil sales before the release of 4.2. It would be interesting to go back and see if the same increase happened leading up to wards 9-12 added in 3.3 and Shirogane Savage.
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  7. #17
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    Zero Noun
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 80
    What's truly disappointing to me is that the bot networks aren't even trying to mask their behavior anymore.
    I've been playing since the ARR PS3 beta, and there's been different shifts in bot identities.

    At this point, it's blatantly apparent that there is limited proactive work on SE's part -- the networks aren't even bothering using an EN/GR/FR/JP dictionary for naming.
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  8. #18
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    Zero Noun
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 80


    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this stuff out.
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  9. #19
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noun View Post

    rocket surgeon
    I chuckled, thank you.


    Not so funny is seeing all those 'estate built' statuses on those RMT FCs. Bet they try sell the FCs/FC houses.
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