Jobs and Classes: Ratios.

[Chinook]

musketeer is already a class just not ingame yet so we wouldn't be seeing Archer >> Musketeer

Yeah, and Thaumaturge cannot become Black Mage since Conjurer got all the elemental nukes >.>

I wouldn't rule out anything at this point.

[Vexerus]

Yeah, and Thaumaturge cannot become Black Mage since Conjurer got all the elemental nukes >.>

I wouldn't rule out anything at this point.

Have you read not read any of the recent info? Miss that part where they are splitting the nukes between both classes? The part that explicitly and clearly says THM unlocks BLM? I guess BG really is not infallible eh.

Junpei and Quesse are correct. The system is already in place for a 2:1 ratio. I'm gonna go ahead an call it right now that you need, for example, 30 THM and 15 CNJ in order to unlock BLM.

[Lerris]

Yeah, and Thaumaturge cannot become Black Mage since Conjurer got all the elemental nukes >.>

I wouldn't rule out anything at this point.

Have you read not read any of the recent info? Miss that part where they are splitting the nukes between both classes? The part that explicitly and clearly says THM unlocks BLM? I guess BG really is not infallible eh.

Junpei and Quesse are correct. The system is already in place for a 2:1 ratio. I'm gonna go ahead an call it right now that you need, for example, 30 THM and 15 CNJ in order to unlock BLM.

I think your sarcasm filter failed.
Chinook was pointing out the previous conclusion based on an obvious assumption which was incorrect.

[fusional]

I think your sarcasm filter failed.
Chinook was pointing out the previous conclusion based on an obvious assumption which was incorrect.

speaking of obvious assumptions, how 'bout that rebirth? or raise 2? or paralyna/silena? or, you know... CURE/CURAGA? truly wild how conjurer has those and not thm, right? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??!

what is wrong with you people? -_-

[AmyRae]

speaking of obvious assumptions, how 'bout that rebirth? or raise 2? or paralyna/silena? or, you know... CURE/CURAGA? truly wild how conjurer has those and not thm, right? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??!

what is wrong with you people? -_-

Speaking of obvious assumptions, ever notice how Thaumaturge had more healing and raise spells than nukes? Ever notice how Conjurer had twice the black mage spells than white mage spells? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??!

What is wrong with you people? -_-

[fusional]

Speaking of obvious assumptions, ever notice how Thaumaturge had more healing and raise spells than nukes? Ever notice how Conjurer had twice the black mage spells than white mage spells? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??!

What is wrong with you people? -_-

"i am going to ignore obvious indicators to the contrary of my preferred assumption because it undermines my position, and try to make the argument quantitative rather than qualitative/specific"

keep flailing about to justify your completely off-kilter assumptions. keep refusing to acknowledge clear evidence opposed to your position/agenda because it's merely 'inconvenient' and couldn't possibly hold any weight. anything to feel justified, correct, and entitled- anything to preserve your misguided sense of outrage.

and don't try to play the deflect/project/shed the spotlight game. i have no stake in this. i have both at 50 and look forward to trying both jobs. i just find *your* delusion (and that of those taking a similar position) both humorous and... mindblowing.

blackmage with raise 2 and rebirth... lollllllllllllll

[AmyRae]

"i am going to ignore obvious indicators to the contrary of my preferred assumption because it undermines my position, and try to make the argument quantitative rather than qualitative/specific"

keep flailing about to justify your completely off-kilter assumptions. keep refusing to acknowledge clear evidence opposed to your position/agenda because it's merely 'inconvenient' and couldn't possibly hold any weight. anything to feel justified, correct, and entitled- anything to preserve your misguided sense of outrage.

and don't try to play the deflect/project/shed the spotlight game. i have no stake in this. i have both at 50 and look forward to trying both jobs. i just find *your* delusion (and that of those taking a similar position) both humorous and... mindblowing.

blackmage with raise 2 and rebirth... lollllllllllllll

I don't really care about the subject. I just think how you treat others who don't agree with your preconceptions is ridiculous (and deserves to be mocked).

There were plenty of indications that conjurers could have been black mages; it wasn't as obvious as you try to make it sound. There's no reason to be cruel to anyone who had that assumption. It just makes you look like an ass.

[Bowen]

"i am going to ignore obvious indicators to the contrary of my preferred assumption because it undermines my position, and try to make the argument quantitative rather than qualitative/specific"

keep flailing about to justify your completely off-kilter assumptions. keep refusing to acknowledge clear evidence opposed to your position/agenda because it's merely 'inconvenient' and couldn't possibly hold any weight. anything to feel justified, correct, and entitled- anything to preserve your misguided sense of outrage.

and don't try to play the deflect/project/shed the spotlight game. i have no stake in this. i have both at 50 and look forward to trying both jobs. i just find *your* delusion (and that of those taking a similar position) both humorous and... mindblowing.

blackmage with raise 2 and rebirth... lollllllllllllll

If I may, I was one of the people that thought that CNJ was going to be BLM.
And while that might not have been true, there are still many reasons why CNJ would make sense as BLM and THM would make sense as WHM.
For one, according to the original lore, THM were priests and althought the ones in the guild that we join are rather. . . obssessed with the darker sides of magics, the other temple in Ul'dah was dedicated to life and the preservation of it.
CNJs on the other hand, were masters of all six elemental magics. Traditionally, in final fantasy, Fire, Blizzard, and Thunder were all Black Magic spells, with Quake (Stone), Tornado (Aero), and Flood (Water) all being special cases. (Aero being the only canon white magic out of the three)
And since many of us came from FFXI, were all of these were Black Magic spells, how could you not expect us to interpret CNJ as BLM on first impressions.
Yes, CNJ had Cure and other White Magic spells, but they could have easily given those spells to THM and let CNJs keep their elemental nukes to keep their lore intact while still keeping THMs lore relitively the same.
This argument is pointless however, so there is no need for this insulting and arguing.