Quick Analysis: Mage changes and Final Fantasy Tradition.

[Dreadnought]

Basically had to in order to 5-star certain fights in XIII, I think. Out of IX, X, Tactics, and some of XII, though, I very rarely ever used debuffs. If I did, it was almost always Slow or Stop, and that's it.

awe really?
i practically get off on Dots and Absorb spells. Id spam those bishes in every game they were in!

[OMEGA_HACK]

The debuffs worked wonders in the offline games when you were fighting the hard optional bosses (basically). Unless you seriously grinded to the max level and just overwhelmed them with brute strength. :/

[Coglin]

The concept of the debuffs were right on. The mechanics did not play out though. I personally love a game with a good debuff mechanics, that allows CC and debuff classes to play valueble roles in all aspects of the game.

[Jocko]

FF II and III had pretty great debuffs. Mini and Frog were multi targeting and had decent hit rates. Then again, they acted more like death spells, but still

[Roll]

2 - Offensive Earth spell for White Mages.

This is new. As in, completely new, no precedent. Closest we get to it is......well, nothing.


So, this is it. Feel free to correct me!

We can now proceed to argue with each other like always. j/k

Most likely left in Earth/Stone/Quake because of CNJ lore and also Conjurers learn it, not White Mages. And since Conjurer is a class and classes are meant more for soloing, it's probably left in in case Conjurers fight something resistant to wind/Aero.

[MiNuN]

Awesome thread, thanks so much, I struggle in arguments ^^;;

[tymora]

Earth and Water for CON goes well with gardening and maintaining the forest.
What do you need to make plants grow better again?

[OMEGA_HACK]

And the wind to pollinate and cut the harvest!

[MartaDemireux]

Don't forget FFIX's tent trick on bosses! Could pop a tent on them at start, they get bit by a snake and get inflicted with blind, silence and poison. I think those were the debuffs anyway... In any case it made every boss fight even easier haha.

[Alkoun]

Don't forget FFIX's tent trick on bosses! Could pop a tent on them at start, they get bit by a snake and get inflicted with blind, silence and poison. I think those were the debuffs anyway... In any case it made every boss fight even easier haha.

This made me lol for ALL the wrong, non-FF reasons...