Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Skivvy]

And when we say that the average preformance of the player base is very low people think we are exaggerating and jump to defend.

Jumping in to defend. I've been playing quite awhile, and I've really only had a handful of runs where I'll actually check gear/job levels because things are questionable. Yes, bad players are out there, but so are a lot of decent players who dont' t make it into threads like this as it's easier to remember the bad and more fun to talk about.

[Tlamila]

Last levelling roulette, Aurum Vale. It's probably the dungeon I hate the most in the whole game, which doesn't help, but this was the worse AV run I've ever had, and I had plenty of horrid ones. Right away, tank runs away without protect, which already for me is a big clue that things are gonna be bad. He aggroes pretty much the entire first area, while we lag behind cause others waited for protect. I manage to heal him but it's a huge pain, especially because at 49 tools are very limited. As for trash pulls he goes on that way the whole dungeon, overaggroing, every single hit he takes ttaking almost the whole HP, and even running to aggro another group while 1-2 of the last are still alive. My mana was crying, which hasn't happened in forever, some dps even died on trash. First boss, as expected was hell. I position myself near the same fruit every time, and I do so as soon as I enter so that everybody can pick one also relatively to that. but nope, the SMN decides to place herself exactly on the other side of the room, to be out of reach from my heals. The tank ofc is taking crazy dmg, as is everybody, and positions are such that not even a medica touches everybody. At some point the tank decides to tank in a corner instead of the middle, and the monk has to run back and forth quite a bit to pick fruits, and me to heal everybody and pick fruits. I've seen in time a lot of problems in this fight, but never ever those. Second boss, not even sure what the tank was doing, but it was probably the first time I've seen that one go horribly. Third boss, oh man. Again the fruits and positions problems ofc, but to add to that, the tank decides the morbol has to be directed towards the group. He waits till 7 stacks before picking a fruit, and again instead of picking a close one he goes all the way to a corner, and there stays, ofc with the morbol facing us, not vice versa. I felt very murderous.
Of course I also checked the tank's gear, since I imagined with how much damage he was taking (and he was using mitigation!!) he had to be undergeared, and I was right. He had two lvl50 blues, but the rest was 30-40 whites and greens, and...lvl 5 whites!!!! At 50+! Sigh.

[Tlamila]

I'll add another horror story, always of last roulette bunch, but this time I'm the bad one who made me rage. Expert Roulette, Hell's Lid, I was super happy because i love that dungeon in everything but in roulette I almost always end up in Fractal. Lag spikes. Big lag spikes. Suddenly. Had this a few times since patch but never this big. I wasn't able to keep up with tank because at time I'd pretty much had screen stuck for a few seconds, so had to use sprint a lot and quickly make up for being behind on healing. I died once at each of the first two bosses,I don't even know how, luckily there was a RDM who ressed me. I pretty much wanted to kick myself, but the group was very nice and didn't seem to mind my screw ups too much, somehow even got comms. But I feel super shameful, even though lag isn't my fault.

And I think I was also lagging earlier at Syrcus, since when you need to hide behind the ice gaol (sorry, don't know names of bosses or skills there, only ran it a bunch of times) I died while behind it already. Which is yet another mark of shame, RIP me. And that's why I try to run alliance raids as dps.

[Yeol]

Jumping in to defend. I've been playing quite awhile, and I've really only had a handful of runs where I'll actually check gear/job levels because things are questionable. Yes, bad players are out there, but so are a lot of decent players who dont' t make it into threads like this as it's easier to remember the bad and more fun to talk about.

I do understand where you are coming from. But this is not about having slow runs or wipping in dungeons.

I was referring to the issue in general term. The majority of players are under prefomring. If you think that clearing dungeons with no issues means that you had a good party, you are wrong.
Sometimes it is the tank and healer doing all the job while the dps are being carried. The dps end up believing that they did good but in reality they were out dpsed by tank and healer.

So just because there are no wipes/deaths or anything questionable, it does not mean that the players were preforming well.

[NephthysVasudan]

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And yet the moment you start criticizing and nitpicking....is the moment you end up with a dungeon run from hell.
this is what I call the "parser" mentality.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a efficient run - but I play to have fun...and I'll be happy if we all get through in one piece without wiping let alone having major accidents.

[Yeol]

And yet the moment you start criticizing and nitpicking....is the moment you end up with a dungeon run from hell.
this is what I call the "parser" mentality.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a efficient run - but I play to have fun...and I'll be happy if we all get through in one piece without wiping let alone having major accidents.

I run into these types of players everyday and say nothing to them. I just do my part the best way I can.

It is when we open discussions regarding this matter people jump to defend and point fingers.

[KaivaC]

And yet the moment you start criticizing and nitpicking....is the moment you end up with a dungeon run from hell.
this is what I call the "parser" mentality.

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a efficient run - but I play to have fun...and I'll be happy if we all get through in one piece without wiping let alone having major accidents.

What...is parser mentality? I'm not following.

[Yunuen]

Was leveling my alt and had to do Tam-Tara, get in with a DRK who is just... bad. He couldn't hold aggro at all, and on the final few pulls he just gave up and afk'd. We ended up kicking him and just finished the dungeon with the MCH tanking, until I pulled aggro from healing. Easy-peasy.

[EorzeaHero69]

What...is parser mentality? I'm not following.

I’m guessing it’s when someone always thinks higher numbers= master player; lower numbers= bad players or something.

[Veliena]

What...is parser mentality? I'm not following.

Parser mentality is basically a way for a player/players to nitpick, it stretches beyond if the run was "smooth" or not, to well what did the dps do, what did the tank do, what did the heals do.

It normally boils down to, oh I did more dps then you, so I am better than you so wtf are you doing in my dungeon run scrub? Git Gud.