Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

[HyoMinPark]

This isn't an unpopular opinion at all; there's literally a thread on the first page talking about how "pure healers" aren't "good players" in FFXIV. The healer subforum and FFXIV Reddit are also littered with similar sentiments.

I am aware of the thread. There are equal amounts of arguments that healers are supposed to only heal/“you don’t pay my sub” in that thread as well. The amount of flack I have personally received for saying healers should contribute DPS has lead me to believe that it’s still a relatively unpopular opinion.



I would also like to add another that I forgot because I got distracted by my cat:

I will not carry players. If you are not pulling your weight in content that demands it (i.e., Extremes, Savage, Ultimate), then please leave and come back when you are ready to pull your weight. I will also not feel sorry for kicking someone who joins a clear/farm party that has never stepped foot into the content (especially if it’s a farm and you haven’t cleared). Call me callous, but if I’m expected to earn my clears, I expect others to earn theirs.

And another because I was posting in another thread about this:

Super unpopular opinion: I don’t care if the developers wanted to add in external DLC to the cash shop at a later date. I am talking minions from previous OSTs, Artbooks, Plushies, and the emotes from the Odin/Shiva Statues. I am not a fan of “exclusivity” or “limited time only” deals. I don’t see the big deal if someone just wants a minion or an emote, and wants to pay $5~10 USD for it instead of $50~150. I pay more because I get cool merchandise for the price, PLUS a minion/emote.

This opinion is coming from someone who has all OST/Artbook/Plushie minions except the Wind-up Bahamut/Wind-up Dalamud, and the Wind-up Yotsuyu (because I am protesting the change to per character from account-wide), and from someone who pre-ordered the Shiva statue.

[Vstarstruck]

Super unpopular opinion: I don’t care if the developers wanted to add in external DLC to the cash shop at a later date. I am talking minions from previous OSTs, Artbooks, Plushies, and the emotes from the Odin/Shiva Statues. I am not a fan of “exclusivity” or “limited time only” deals. I don’t see the big deal if someone just wants a minion or an emote, and wants to pay $5~10 USD for it instead of $50~150. I pay more because I get cool merchandise for the price, PLUS a minion/emote.

I think it was around when it was first announced, I got no clue. Regardless your view is so unpopular that it caused a wipe on the final boss of The Royal City of Rabanastre from people giving each other stacks from being distracted over having a few people argue over how 150 dollar exlucive emote is stupid, can be 7 dollar emote on the mog station for those that want the emote only while others where auguring it is fine get a better job and that the exclusiveness is fine.

Now you know why this exists in the first place, some people are so bent in defending the practice, they wipe raids -.-

[HyoMinPark]

I think it was around when it was first announced, I got no clue. . . .agure over how 150 dollar emote is stupid while others where auguring it is fine get a better job

As far as I’m aware, there’s never been any announcement or mention of previous external DLCs being made available via the Cash Shop. As for people arguing the price of stuff, well, value is a subjective thing. I pre-ordered for the Statue and the emote, not just the emote. I didn’t pre-order the Odin statue because I didn’t care about the statue or the emote. /shrug

Therein lies the problem though: people see a $150 EMOTE, not a $150 STATUE that comes with an emote as an EXTRA. But it’s the same with the OSTs, Artbooks, and Plushies. People only see the price tag + the external DLC; a lot of the people that complain either don’t want the merchandise and just the DLC: they don’t see the value in the merchandise itself, just the minion/emote code. Hence why I say SE should use throw the minions/emotes in the cash shop at a later date. They will still profit off of people that want the merchandise + the DLC/people that will pay more to get the shiny extras “sooner”, AND they will profit off of people that just want the DLC.

[Vstarstruck]

As far as I’m aware, there’s never been any announcement or mention of previous external DLCs being made available via the Cash Shop. As for people arguing the price of stuff, well, value is a subjective thing. I pre-ordered for the Statue and the emote, not just the emote. I didn’t pre-order the Odin statue because I didn’t care about the statue or the emote. /shrug

ya ik, but as you said, and some during that raid, why can't it just be a mog shop item just for the emote? why only tie it to a 150 dollar statue? Regardless I find it funny af auguring over that so much it ended up wiping the raid XD Usually people just stop and play, pretty amazed.

I wouldn't consider that unpopular at all since every new release with a limited item comes with a thread of people baffled by these items being locked.

A minion/emote isn't selling artbooks, but I do think they sold the less expensive streams for the Fanfests.

she might be right, it did wipe a raid, rofl

[HyoMinPark]

I wouldn't consider that unpopular at all since every new release with a limited item comes with a thread of people baffled by these items being locked.

A minion/emote isn't selling artbooks, but I do think they sold the less expensive streams for the Fanfests.

I think in a lot of these threads, there are a lot of complaints about people “having to pay” $50~150 USD for a minion or an emote, so, for some, the shiny extras are a deciding factor in buying the merchandise. They buy it just for the minion/emote, and then complain that the minion cost them $50, or the emote cost them $150. But, like I added into my previous post, the issue is people placing the value on the extras, not on the actual merchandise itself.


The “unpopular” aspect of my opinion is the adding them to the cash shop part. Inevitably, the moment someone makes that suggestion, people flock to the thread to defend this idea of “exclusivity”. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity when it comes to vanity items, so it doesn’t matter to me if SE wants to put them in the Mogstation. But a lot of people get all up in arms about the very idea that their Wind-up Dalamud won’t be “exclusive” anymore. (To which I say, if an item loses its value to you just because people are able to obtain it later, then it probably didn’t have that much “value” to you before, other than some source of virtual bragging rights...which no one but you even cared about.)
General “you” being used there, btw.

ya ik, but as you said, and some during that raid, why can't it just be a mog shop item just for the emote? why only tie it to a 150 dollar statue? Regardless I find it funny af auguring over that wiped the raid XD Usually people just stop and play, pretty amazed.

I feel honored to have been the source of a Rabanasty wipe.

[Vstarstruck]

I feel honored to have been the source of a Rabanasty wipe.

Na just the viewpoint, was long ago where me or the person in question didn't know you XD well i didn't know you, idk if they did, maybe, but its not like you caused it. Just someone with the same viewpoint.

The “unpopular” aspect of my opinion is the adding them to the cash shop part. Inevitably, the moment someone makes that suggestion, people flock to the thread to defend this idea of “exclusivity”. I’ve never been a fan of exclusivity when it comes to vanity items, so it doesn’t matter to me if SE wants to put them in the Mogstation. But a lot of people get all up in arms about the very idea that their Wind-up Dalamud won’t be “exclusive” anymore. (To which I say, if an item loses its value to you just because people are able to obtain it later, then it probably didn’t have that much “value” to you before, other than some source of virtual bragging rights...which no one but you even cared about.)
General “you” being used there, btw.

YUP! that is exactly that caused the wipe, rofl.

[HyoMinPark]

Na just the viewpoint, was long ago where me or the person in question didn't know you XD well i didn't know you, idk if they did, maybe, but its not like you caused it. Just someone with the same viewpoint.

Crushing my dreams, man.

[Aeducan]

I personally wish they would tune down the FF 6 references. We already have a whole country that plays very important role in the story, 4 eidolons exclusive to FF 6 (Warring Triad + Lakshmi), a mount with FF 6's signature theme, FF 6's boss battle music, arguably every dungeons related to Garlemald, and now we're getting phantom train and Kefka.

It's not that I hate FF 6 or anything (it was before my time but my older brother said it was brilliant and I believe him), but when there are other FF games that barely have any references in the game such as 8 9 10 and 13, you would've thought they would focus on these instead.

[HyoMinPark]

there are other FF games that barely have any references in the game such as 8 9 10 and 13

To be fair, XIII had an event that occurred 2~3 times in the past. FFX was the “theme” for last year’s round of fan fest (but I would love to see more aspects of FFX in FFXIV because it’s my favorite Final Fantasy, probably because it was the first one I ever played—minus Blitzball because I abhorred Blitzball in FFX and I do not want to see it added to FFXIV lol).

I’m honestly surprised there hasn’t been any FFXV representation in FFXIV yet, to be frank. There was such a demand for a FFXV cross-over event, and I think the developers said something about maybe doing it “after everyone had had time to enjoy the game”, but I haven’t heard of anything about it since.


I’ve never played FFVIII or FFIX, but some representation outside of Veteran’s Reward outfits would be nice.

Speaking of other FF representations, I actually do NOT want to see FFVII in the third tier of Omega. :x I like FFVII and all, but too much of a good thing, is a thing. I just think it would fall flat, to be honest. Or be ridiculously cheesy, or have that “overrated” feel to it. I’d prefer to see FFX, honestly. But I’m biased. :3

[Aeducan]

sniperoo

Ah my apologies, I didn't know there were X and XIII events in the past. I joined the game 2 weeks before SB hit (I was newly lv 50 WHM excited to try that AoE stoneskin and then poof it was gone before I had the chance to use it, haha...) so the only X and XIII references that I know of are costumes and perhaps Yojimbo for X. Haha we're on the same boat; it'd be great if we could have more FF X references in this game. Unlike you though, I enjoyed blitzball in X but I have a feeling that it'd be a disaster if it were to be implemented here.

Not having XV reference is somewhat understandable given the fact that it's the only successor of this game as of now, though I don't see why not. May not be suitable for third tier of Omega though, cause I think nostalgia factor is very apparent in these raids. With how things as they are right now I wouldn't be surprised if Sephiroth/JENOVA is the last boss for Omega, but let's hope it'd be Sin/Yevon instead