Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

[RiyahArp]

It WAS better and you're just not good at this game.

half the pve kit was literally worthless, ffs.

-DOTs were worthless since healers kept heal over times on everyone, and really only the ones that procced an additional effect were used, i.e bard's ones. You couldn't maintain them at all, because of the nature of pvp engagements over pve ones; targets ran away, stayed out of melee range, and more.
-AOEs were worthless in general, despite the overall potency over single attacks, spike damage was king. At best aoe damage could be used to interrupt claiming a node in seal rock, but in other modes literally was wasted space. The only aoe attacks that mattered were sleep and cometeor.
-Any damaging spell on any healer was useless, because you had no clerics in it, and it was impossible to gear with enough int to make it damage, even if you got rid of mind. Some were legitmately bad; holy would do 300 points of damage and give every single person in range stun resistance.
-CC in general was present, but veered between overpowered and useless; overpowered in feast, often useless in FL since 24 people per side could apply resistance real quick unless coordinated. Especially if you had a smn with titan on sic.
-You had a lot of single attacks designed for maintenance in PvE, that became ridiculous to try and apply and refresh in pvp.

It was a pain in the butt for most players who didn't make an effort to learn how to play and play well, much like any Extreme or Savage content would be for anyone who doesn't attempt to learn it. The old kits - and we've debated this many times now - natively had skills that proved to be highly effective in PvP where they were otherwise unused in PvE. I can't speak for most other jobs, but for MCH, the only things I didn't use were Spread/Grenado Shot, and even then there were odd occasions I could use them. You mention a semi-gimped PvP kit, yet each job then had PvP skills tailored to them, unlike what we have now: an optional sprint. Safeguard: a weak tank cooldown for all. Concentrate: a weaker Fetter Ward for all. Muse: a weak MP refresh for all, especially now that BRD and MCH can't restore MP anymore. . . See the trend there?

Once again 3.5 brought the uniform length reduction and standardization of all CC skills, which was actually a major improvement, especially with the diminshing returns of that time. Sure, a PLD could stun lock you, but if that was his one trick and he kept doing it, soon enough, it wouldn't work at all for the next minute. Now, length/duration of CC skills are so pathetically low, with an immediate immunity triggered after it (which I don't necessarily think is a bad thing, if the length of the actual effect weren't so short) is so laughably minor that it does little to actually benefit players. And that's assuming they're playing a job that even has them. Sorry DRG, MNK, and SAM.

Half the pvp abilities themselves were useless. A lot of point blank aoes, if I remember. Most had two abilities offensively, then everyone picked the same defensive ones per role. If anything, getting rid of MP refresh was a good move, and TP refresh was useless in PvP once they made sprint not take TP.

Keep in mind 3.5 was the end of the expansion cycle, and till then we saw really nasty use of CC and really sucky balance. You're kind of pointing to the time when they finally fixed a lot of the problems of HW, and even then, they really struggled to get people into Feast. I'm rehashing this only for context in this thread.

And honestly, if it wasn't nostalgia, we should have not seen Feast empty out, nor should pvp have gone through the same boom and busy cycles then as it did now. It's not like it was even filled in 3.0 any greater than now.

[ErryK]

Not sure if its unpopular but I think [Savage raids] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [PvP modes] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [unisex glamours] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [nerfs to older content] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [housing issues/availability issues] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [Eternal Bonds] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.
Not sure if its unpopular but I think [new tank/healer jobs in the next expansion] are a waste of time and resources for the staff that caters to a tiny almost non-existent subset of the community better served with other choices.

I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion, but I wanted to show how unhealthy that statement can be, and how easily it can applied to anything else in the game.

That's bait.

I'm really bad at this game and I wish they would reduce the amount of buttons in pve to 9 so maybe I could clear savage content.

This is also bait.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The irony of your post is that it's far more baiting than both quotes.

I also want to cite that the topic is called "Discussing your unpopular opinions." Not "Say whatever you like and expect everyone to just read it."

half the pve kit was literally worthless, ffs.

Better it be "worthless" than completely unusable.

And which job? Cause I'm struggling to think of a job that had completely worthless skills at all in PvP.

[Dualgunner]

RDM's verraise (or access to it) should be heavily nerfed and in its place it should get either greater dps or another dps-boosting party support. There's no such thing as a jack-of-all-trades in this game and trying to force RDM into that non-existent slot only hurts it.
Not only that but no dps should have greater access to a recovery tool than a healer nor should they be expected to be the backbone for a healer.

[RiyahArp]

And which job? Cause I'm struggling to think of a job that had completely worthless skills at all in PvP.

All damaging skills on any healer were about useless. Most of the maintenance buffs, liek Hot Shot on MCH, were effectively useless because they were low potency attacks you were forced to use or in essence get a 10% penalty to overall dps. PvP server latency and how they would prioritize damage made a lot of movement abilities useless, as well as connection; it was pretty common to elusive jump back and be dead because the game calculated attacks as being present at all poitns on the jump. Generally there was a lot of filler; nin for example needed to do a useless two hit combo to apply their second dot.

There was a pve example of this stuff too; Neverreap was so hated because the bosses broke the "stand still and be a big hittable pool of HP" rule. They'd go invincible and make all Dots fall off, or force periods of inactivity where all your timers were zero out. I think that's when people started to hate black mage, because then the enochian mechanic was so strict that it fell apart if the boss just poofed. Even in Pve the HW kit was showing some issues.

[Akor]

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SMN would like to disagree with this a whole a lot. Even after the "nerfs" they still was king of the FL. After that BLM who still used they thunder/Thundercloud alot which still was one of the highest single target dmg+DoT. BRD was the same, they dots give alot of dmg and it was more usefull than u think they was, even now they are. We can argue w/e on melees it was usefull or not, but it was still nice to do add dots on them.

Killing ppl with lb was the most effective way.

[ErryK]

I also want to cite that the topic is called "Discussing your unpopular opinions." Not "Say whatever you like and expect everyone to just read it."

Oh, backseat moderating. Cool, we're doing that this year?

Anyways, your post is bait because it only serves to belittle the opinion of the other poster. The fact that you even said it was unhealthy is largely hyperbole, it's just an opinion, it's not a venereal disease.

Frankly, his opinion is valid and bears truth to it, there's a small fraction of players actually killing Ultimate, compared to Savage, casual content like dungeons and even PvP. You were just using hyperbole to make a point, which is fair game but at the same time, it's dramatics.

[Pomelo]

- I am perfectly ok that females have more fashion options than males.

Oh no you didn't.

[ko_]

I think Zenos is a tool and a lame baddie and he should take lessons from Eggman or M.Bison.

[Vanitas]

This game caters to people that probably can't even finish a single player game complaining that it's too hard and "how do I change the difficulty to easy???" The same people who would probably write a negative review on a dynasty warriors game saying the combat is too "complex and confusing" to understand.