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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    that is a huge issue, using nq weps is cheating ilevel requirements basically
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    How is that "cheating"? The ilevel is the ilevel. When SE is making the ilevel requirements they should be just looking at the NQ gear not the HQ stuff. They are the ones that stat up the gear and set the requirements after all. They more than anyone else should be very aware of the differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    o.0

    How is that "cheating"? The ilevel is the ilevel. When SE is making the ilevel requirements they should be just looking at the NQ gear not the HQ stuff. They are the ones that stat up the gear and set the requirements after all. They more than anyone else should be very aware of the differences.
    The ilevel requirements are based on drop gear, and drop gear is = HQ. The ilevel requirements are not meant to be bypassed in NQ gear. esp with drastic differences in weapon.

    NQ is basically trash in this game, I have no idea why it is made like it is, NQ gear is noob traps, all it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    The ilevel requirements are based on drop gear, and drop gear is = HQ. The ilevel requirements are not meant to be bypassed in NQ gear. esp with drastic differences in weapon.

    NQ is basically trash in this game, I have no idea why it is made like it is, NQ gear is noob traps, all it is.
    I'm reading a lot of assertion on your part, got any source material from SE for it? Because like I said, SE is the ones that make the gear and set the requirements, they are very aware of the differences and should be setting ilevels based on the NQ gear. If NQ gear is supposed to be just trash gear it shouldn't have stats on it at all.

    I also still don't see the cheating part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    o.0

    How is that "cheating"? The ilevel is the ilevel. When SE is making the ilevel requirements they should be just looking at the NQ gear not the HQ stuff. They are the ones that stat up the gear and set the requirements after all. They more than anyone else should be very aware of the differences.
    It's the fact that you can have the 'proper ilvl', but not the 'proper output' for something. It's like back in 3.X when people were wearing other class accessories to fake their ilvl, then they did poorly because bards had tank gear and were missing About 300+ points of dex because of it.

    And it's not the texbook meaning of cheating. It's like 'doing something that gets you into stuff you shouldn't be in with your stats, but are anyways'. The ilvl should be different for NQ and HQ of the same item honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    It's the fact that you can have the 'proper ilvl', but not the 'proper output' for something. It's like back in 3.X when people were wearing other class accessories to fake their ilvl, then they did poorly because bards had tank gear and were missing About 300+ points of dex because of it.

    And it's not the texbook meaning of cheating. It's like 'doing something that gets you into stuff you shouldn't be in with your stats, but are anyways'. The ilvl should be different for NQ and HQ of the same item honestly.
    o.0 The proper minimum output should be being achieved with the NQ gear that qualifies. HQ gear should just make your output even better.

    I don't think I've encountered any all class gear in SB (I could be wrong, I pay more attention to the actual stats than the line that says what can wear it unless I see red), we should be past the point of people wearing other classes stuff to get in. Really though, that's a different subject than NQ vs HQ.

    I agree the higher stats should warrant a higher ilevel on HQ stuff. But SE did make the gear and reqs, it should be accounted for already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    Even if it's enough to make it through the content, it's disrespectful to those who are grouping with you.
    Thanks for the giggle.
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