Fending Accessories Strength Gain

[Kabooa]

To be clear, this isn't about pushing content. You can choose to not pentameld and still reach your BiS on both healer and dps. Unless you play tanks in which case you are forced to pentameld.

The difference in BIS is mathed out somewhere in the realm of 1.8% DPS, at the expense of other attributes. BIS doesn't mean that much in this game, so I personally don't see the problem or the obsession with it. I won't say it doesn't have some value in satisfaction, but most of what is said here feels like its exaggerated a great deal.

Also, keep in mind I am arguing that Raid accessories should come with the Strength materia assumed (So it should be +25 over what it is now) which in turn further reduces the BiS difference to something like .8-1%. It's boggling they haven't at least done this.

The situation does suck, but it also seems a bit disingenuous to say this is somehow greatly unfair to Tanks.

[Chrono_Rising]

The difference in BIS is mathed out somewhere in the realm of 1.8% DPS, at the expense of other attributes. BIS doesn't mean that much in this game, so I personally don't see the problem or the obsession with it. I won't say it doesn't have some value in satisfaction, but most of what is said here feels like its exaggerated a great deal.

Also, keep in mind I am arguing that Raid accessories should come with the Strength materia assumed (So it should be +25 over what it is now) which in turn further reduces the BiS difference to something like .8-1%. It's boggling they haven't at least done this.

The situation does suck, but it also seems a bit disingenuous to say this is somehow greatly unfair to Tanks.

I understand what you are advocating for, and it is a good thing, provided we are able to meld the additional strength still.

I'm disagreeing with you trying to minimize this. It might be a small difference in dps. But once again, other classes reach their best gear set for running the content they are already running. Tanks do not. That is a clear difference that puts more burden on one class than the other, regardless of what the pushers are trying to do.

If I want that extra 1.8%, which healers and dps can get over time without time and gil investment over what is needed to run the content, I need to either have alot of gil, or spend a large amount of time and energy collecting that materia. That is a relatively large time investment that I wouldn't need to do if I played another class.

Is BiS the be all end all? No, it isn't game breaking for a tank to not reach their best in slot gear. Is it ideal for the game to have one job having to put in way more time than the other to reach that? No, it is really demotivating to know that, and yes that is a problem. You might find it disingenuous to suggest that only 1 job needing to spend millions of gil to reach their best gear, while the other two jobs will get theirs for free from running content the same content, but hey opinions right?

As a side note, I find it strange than SE feels that strength and vit need to be two different stats to be independently tuned. I would think that all that would need to be done is to change the class multiplier in the damage formula to tune that separately from out HP pool. At some level the game must work as a formula to compute our current maximum HP from our Vit and another formula to compute our damage from our strength. Lets call f our HP formula and g our damage forumla

f(vitality) = HP
g(c*vitality) = damage

Tune c to make c*vitality = whatever your desired strength is to tune damage. I find their reasoning very strange. If they are using the same damage formula for all classes and instead tuning damage output using class multipliers for damage, once again just tune that parameter instead of the amount of strength to adjust things. I don't understand why having two different stats means more freedom for tuning.

Then you could just replace the strength on tank gear with Tenacity and have yet another parameter for tuning incoming/outgoing tank damage on gear, and give tanks meaningful progression on gear and damage. This also makes tanks tankier with the tenacity mitigation, and highlights why you don't want dps getting punched by adds. Just my two cents.

[Kabooa]

Is BiS the be all end all? No, it isn't game breaking for a tank to not reach their best in slot gear. Is it ideal for the game to have one job having to put in way more time than the other to reach that? No, it is really demotivating to know that, and yes that is a problem. You might find it disingenuous to suggest that only 1 job needs to spend millions of gil to reach their best gear, while the other two jobs will get theirs for free from running content the same content, but hey opinions right?

I guess. I imagine the amount of pentamelded tanks running about doesn't greatly exceed the amount of pentamelded healers or DPS running about at the start of any given tier patch but that requires data I dont' have access to.

In the meantime: Selling fending accessories, best price on the market! Comes pre-pentamelded! Save yourself the stress!