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  1. #11
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    NaoTenbe's Avatar
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    SE gets people back into the recording studio
    SE:"Okay, we need you to voice EVERY iteration of name we have of characters that are playing the game. Ready? go!"
    VA: "Hello Suki Yucky..."
    "Hello Sticky Pudding..."
    "Hello IP Freely..."
    "Hello... okay, how a name like Longdong Mcstronghuge got past your approvals I'll never know, but I'm not saying that into a microphone"
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Not everything is VA'd because it costs moneys.

    So this:



    definitely isn't gonna happen.

    As for the rest:
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...gIsAFreeAction
    Yes voice acting costs money. Everything created and produced costs money to make happen in the game. What's your point?

    Mine in part was that if I'm going to have to watch this dungeons cut scenes from start to finish Every. Single. Time. The polish needs to be brought up to a higher standards.

    In comics as cited in your link the action is very limited. Most of the intereactions are actually left up to your minds eye to interpret. It's a fair bit more acceptable for it to happen in that format than say this game or even a TV show. Even in TV shows the bad guys pretty much only monologue when they're either out of harms way and untouchable or have the "hero" beaten and on the ropes.

    Gaius is standing right there in front of us just fine like we are, and we just let him drone on and do his thing without any interaction on our part or an allies. It's a crappily applied trope that makes the experience not very enjoyable.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaoTenbe View Post
    SE gets people back into the recording studio
    SE:"Okay, we need you to voice EVERY iteration of name we have of characters that are playing the game. Ready? go!"
    VA: "Hello Suki Yucky..."
    "Hello Sticky Pudding..."
    "Hello IP Freely..."
    "Hello... okay, how a name like Longdong Mcstronghuge got past your approvals I'll never know, but I'm not saying that into a microphone"
    lol

    They could just as easily sub in Warrior of light like they usually do just fine.
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    Last edited by DeaconMoore; 01-31-2018 at 02:19 PM.

  3. #13
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    Kestrel Moon
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    They could still fully voice act everything if they just had the character always verbally referred to as warrior of light or whatever, and in the text it could still say your name. Years ago I played another mmo that was fully voice acted that did this. IMO referring to the player character by name isn’t a good enough excuse to have less voice acting.
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  4. #14
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoTenbe View Post
    SE gets people back into the recording studio
    SE:"Okay, we need you to voice EVERY iteration of name we have of characters that are playing the game. Ready? go!"
    VA: "Hello Suki Yucky..."
    "Hello Sticky Pudding..."
    "Hello IP Freely..."
    "Hello... okay, how a name like Longdong Mcstronghuge got past your approvals I'll never know, but I'm not saying that into a microphone"
    They have tons of VA in HW/SB and even ARR and they manage to do this by never referring to the character's name. They could alter the script slightly to "you" or "the warrior of light" or other forms of indirect communicaton - which is exactly what they do in the cutscenes that DO have VA.

    So that's not a good excuse. The cost is a good excuse (though one I think would be worth it, but I'm not exactly head of SE's budgeting and development), but not the names because that's easy enough to overcome without doing your ridiculous set up of trying out each name.
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  5. #15
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Yes voice acting costs money. Everything created and produced costs money to make happen in the game. What's your point?
    The point is that VAing everything is something that would have put them over budget, therefore they didn't do it.

    You saying "well, everything ELSE cost money too!" is irrelevant. Point is, some things had to be sacrificed, and this was one of the things they felt could be sacrificed. Deal.

    If you're expecting all of 2.x to get revoiced, you're deluding yourself.

    Mine in part was that if I'm going to have to watch this dungeons cut scenes from start to finish Every. Single. Time. The polish needs to be brought up to a higher standards.
    Or you can just... not keep doing the dungeons. Like many of us have already decided on.
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  6. #16
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    So complaining about the fact nobody wants to queue for this roullete anymore due to being forced to watch a half hours worth of cutscene each time is not legitimate. Good to know.
    You have no proof of that but thanks for playing. Your argument was before the changes were even put in, and assuming that everyone else would think like you. You don't speak for everyone else, and you don't know what the final outcome will be. And there were multiple threads created on the first page, cluttering up the entire General Forum subsection. I guess any expectations bar higher than ankle height for grasping simple concepts, is too much for many on here. Good to know.
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  7. #17
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    Azuko Kouen
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    So, I just ran it with 5 sprouts. The cutscenes took longer than the actual fights. Sprouts were mostly quiet, taking it all in. Meanwhile 3 of us mystery science theater the crap out of the CS. If you're new and friends who've done it before run it with you, it's more special and meaningful since they're gonna sit thru them cutscenes with you to see you progress in the story. It's possible the queue times would go back to the way they were before but at least this time no one can ruin someone else's experience anymore. Maybe queue times get so bad they'd have to sweeten the pot more for vets to help out. Who knows?
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  8. #18
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Preatorium is still from 2.0, where it was still not sure how good the game will run after the failed 1.0. The amount of players at 2.0 launch surprised the devs.
    So they have not voiced many quests. Only with 2.2 they started to voice more and more (but not quests that are already ingame)
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The point is that VAing everything is something that would have put them over budget, therefore they didn't do it.

    You saying "well, everything ELSE cost money too!" is irrelevant. Point is, some things had to be sacrificed, and this was one of the things they felt could be sacrificed. Deal.

    If you're expecting all of 2.x to get revoiced, you're deluding yourself.



    Or you can just... not keep doing the dungeons. Like many of us have already decided on.
    LOL dat hyperbole mate.

    I'm not asking them to redo all of 2.0 and voice act it all. I was saying they need to make these scenes that we have to watch and can't skip voice acted. Their budget at the time might not have allotted for it but it certainly doesn't mean they can't still do it now. We all pay our fees to play the game, and many of us chuck even more money their way via the mogstation. They can find the money to do it and they should. They obviously want us all doing those dungeons to see these scenes in their entirety, every time. It's only right they're properly well done now that the option to skip them is gone.

    And if you're not doing them anymore, why do you care? You're boggling my mind there.
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  10. #20
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    Kya Purrcy
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    So happy that those 2 dungeons don't have Alphinaud in them for all those complaining about the lack of 100% VA in the cs's. I think ppl would murder him and hide his body somewhere if that were the case.
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