Housing exposes a fundamental flaw in institutionalized ethics.

[Saint_Angeles]

I really dont know why OP didn't just title this "Im salty I dont have a house", would have been a lot more apropos.

[illgot]

I really dont know why OP didn't just title this "Im salty I dont have a house", would have been a lot more apropos.

the OP has been posting all over any housing thread about how anyone with multiple houses should be punished and they are greedy selfish players who steal from babies and trip the elderly.

He actually thinks that the only reason people don't have houses is because everyone else owns multiples, even though there are over three times the amount of players than houses spread across the servers.

[JackHatchet]

I have a house. I just wanted a fun discussion while the server was down.

[illgot]

I have a house. I just wanted a fun discussion while the server was down.

So fun for you is calling anyone who has multiple houses prior to 4.2 unethical and greedy because they played by the rules?

real fun discussion.

[JackHatchet]

Now why did you have to respond like that?

You can't tell me that Square-Enix intended the rules to allow people to have more houses. In fact, Square-Enix now have to enforce their intentions with an iron-fist to prevent people from specifically owning more than 1 house.

In addition to that, yeah, that is greedy. Hoarding a limited resource for minor gain. As if people really need to have a house on their alt. And for what? Some random RP bullshit? really? That's worth screwing over a FC from having FC rooms, a garden, and an airship? Some random RP? Get real. Play Sims instead.

It was a fun discussion. If you want it to end, don't reply.

[illgot]

total bs

Again, unless you consider calling people unethical and greedy fun, this is a debate not a "fun discussion".

The few people who own multiple houses do so because they played the game by the rules. Instead of being mad at them, how about you have an actual "fun discussion" and talk about how to fix it, not find a passive aggressive way of getting your frustration out.

[JackHatchet]

They are unethical and greedy. You can't deny that. So why defend them? I'm not saying they can't be greedy. I'm saying they shouldn't pretend they're not. Just take some ownership.

[illgot]

They are unethical and greedy. You can't deny that. So why defend them? I'm not saying they can't be greedy. I'm saying they shouldn't pretend they're not. Just take some ownership.

You have no moral ground to stand on when you own a house others want.

The whole discussion should be "how do we fix the housing issue" not "how can we blame the players for the issues SE created".

[AriesMouse]

Play Sims instead.

Statements like this instantly make me disregard everything else you have to say.

You like housing? Play the Sims.
You like the CUL job? Go play cooking mama, or bake IRL.
You like glamour? Go play with barbies.
You like raiding? Go play WoW, they have more raids to do, and have been doing this whole mmo thing longer.
You like Chocobo racing? Go raise a racing horse.

It goes on, and on. You can't make an argument like that, simply because the games are not the same. If someone wanted to play Sims, they would. They want to play ff14, and they have, perfectly within the rules of the game.

Also, just to state it again: There is more than RP value to owning more than one house. I've seen posts about it before: Some people own more than one house, especially smalls, just for another garden plot. If they removed the garden plot limit on the smaller houses, so every house type could have three, I imagine that would change things a little.

[JackHatchet]

I didn't say owning a house was wrong. I saw owning two houses is wrong.