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  1. #121
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    LastFireAce's Avatar
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    Diabolos
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    How about we leave thos who own multiple house alone? Just like populated server who currently lock...
    They can only go down.
    Btw I just own 1 mid.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 01-31-2018 at 05:54 AM.

  2. #122
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    Silvauna Skylar
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    A simple thing to do would be to put in some kind of housing tax that has to be paid every week for upkeep of a house.Set at the right rate it could potentially cripple house hoarders and force them to relinquish some of their property due to upkeep.
    This would work fine as an incremental penalty.

    One plot on your account? No penalty. More than one plot? You get taxed exponentially for each additional house on your account.

    Think of it as "luxury tax". You can have those 16 plots, but you're pay for them.

    The tolerance people have for the trash of this community is indeed, a core part of the problem. You don't tolerate extortionists and scalpers in real life, so why would you anywhere else?

    The fact the devs were too blind to foresee this problem, and "didn't have rules in place, so "technically" these people didn't break any rules", doesn't validate the action of being a piece of garbage trying to exploit loopholes.
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  3. #123
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    N'ao Tenbe
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    So something I'm wondering on, I have a chara on our server that has house and FC. Also have a chara with no house and FC, and now can't get either. Can the one without use the house of the one who has it now? Or are they destined to never own a house because another chara does?
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  4. #124
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derceto View Post
    This would work fine as an incremental penalty.

    One plot on your account? No penalty. More than one plot? You get taxed exponentially for each additional house on your account.

    Think of it as "luxury tax". You can have those 16 plots, but you're pay for them.

    The tolerance people have for the trash of this community is indeed, a core part of the problem. You don't tolerate extortionists and scalpers in real life, so why would you anywhere else?

    The fact the devs were too blind to foresee this problem, and "didn't have rules in place, so "technically" these people didn't break any rules", doesn't validate the action of being a piece of garbage trying to exploit loopholes.
    I am a capitalist. I do not believe in punishing people for what they earned. I also am 100% against affirmative action of any kind, or any form of wealth redistribution. So take that as you will.
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  5. #125
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    ChewieFlakes's Avatar
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    Yunalesca Syl
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 100
    The last housing addition was a huge bungled mess, they gave an obligatory apology and once the new plots come out in a couple weeks or whenever it will be nearly the EXACT same mess all over again. I wouldn't hold your breath expecting them to fix the housing system in any meaningful way.
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  6. #126
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    Final-Fantasy's Avatar
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    Katharine Kusakari
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    I like the changes they made, this will have positive change.

    The only thing I think they should have done is, for multiple plot owners prior to the update in rules, anyone owning multiple plots should have been given the option to relinquish their plots instantly for a 100% refund and, in the event they don't relinquish within 7 days, they forfeit the right to any Gil refund in the event the plot automatically relinquish over time.
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  7. #127
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NaoTenbe View Post
    So something I'm wondering on, I have a chara on our server that has house and FC. Also have a chara with no house and FC, and now can't get either. Can the one without use the house of the one who has it now? Or are they destined to never own a house because another chara does?
    Pretty much. Nothing was put in to allow alts to access houses of mains.
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  8. #128
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    I like the changes they made, this will have positive change.

    The only thing I think they should have done is, for multiple plot owners prior to the update in rules, anyone owning multiple plots should have been given the option to relinquish their plots instantly for a 100% refund and, in the event they don't relinquish within 7 days, they forfeit the right to any Gil refund in the event the plot automatically relinquish over time.
    sounds cool and all, but what about the millions in decorations they own? I have one large house and the ground floor is worth about 20-30 million in decorations. If someone has multiple houses they can easily surpass the decoration storage limit. So now we have the issue of either just deleting millions hundreds of millions in decorations or figure out a way to give the player back a fair market price for all their decorations.

    There is no way to take away houses without creating a massive headache for the developers and the players.

    The only real fix to this issue is create instanced housing so everyone can have a house. Considering there is only enough housing to supply about 25% of a servers population, the issue isn't the handful of people that own 2-3 houses, the issue is how poorly our current housing system works for such a large population.
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    Last edited by illgot; 01-31-2018 at 12:28 PM.

  9. #129
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    The only real fix to this issue is create instanced housing so everyone can have a house. Considering there is only enough housing to supply about 25% of a servers population, the issue isn't the handful of people that own 2-3 houses, the issue is how poorly our current housing system works for such a large population.
    Sure would be swell if we got an upgradable instanced plot. Give those of us in the wards an option to transfer our current house size to an equivalent instanced plot. That would free up ward space for FCs and those people who want the neighborhood feel.

    Right now I'd settle for my alts being able to use my house and have their own rooms in it, similar to FC rooms. Apartments are nice but I feel guilty taking those from people who have no housing options besides them.
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  10. #130
    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Sure would be swell if we got an upgradable instanced plot. Give those of us in the wards an option to transfer our current house size to an equivalent instanced plot. That would free up ward space for FCs and those people who want the neighborhood feel.

    Right now I'd settle for my alts being able to use my house and have their own rooms in it, similar to FC rooms. Apartments are nice but I feel guilty taking those from people who have no housing options besides them.
    It would be nice if apartments were replaced by "small houses" and you could upgrade from there to a large house when you can afford it. Leave Wards like they are, just stop adding more and focus on instanced housing.
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