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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    Nope. An FC of 4 people =/= an FC of 4 characters on unique service accounts =/= an FC of 4 people of X level or greater.


    I'm deeply confused by this; I don't follow your train of thought. The most expensive plot in the game costs 50 million.

    The point is: once you buy a house, that account is "locked" from buying others. Yes, you can "play" the system by moving things around a bit, but this vastly reduce the chance of acquiring multiple houses. Flipper still have to contest legitimate buyers for the initial lots, and that's always a tough fight. In fact, even before this the multiple houses weren't as big a problem people are making it out to be. For example in the last release you can't buy a maximum of 2 houses for a simple reason of they are all gone within 5 minutes. After grabbing a house, the time it takes for you to log out and log back in on another character would render the point moot.


    I don't think my 2nd point is confusing. Since it's more difficult to do a land grab on 1 account now, you can't flip it reliably any more. If anything, if they still want to do it, the flippers will now have to play more of a broker, and even then it'll be difficult for them.

    The only way even for an FC to relocate, is that they must have a house already active. So if say, and I guess this is what you saying: they can have 5 people (minimum if they want to buy more than 4 lots) grabbing 4 separate lots, then use the FC loophole to transfer the ownership to 1 person in the initial land grab. That's still it for them. Even if the other 4 people of the group are free to buy other lots, chance is slim that there are still lots available at that point. Even if they negotiate a relinquish later, they still have to use one of their original "stock" house to guarantee the owner ship due to the relinquish timer. This is why this system both mean it's harder to build the initial stock, and pretty much impossible to add more to the stock later.

    There is only one other way for them to increase their stock after the first wave, and that is negotiate a FC transfer from a third party. Which is what my 500mil comment is about. Whoever gonna transfer the house ain't gonna do it for the original cost, a 50mil Shirogane Mansion will go for 300-500mil easily if the demand is there, that mean the flipper will have to pay that instead of the base 50mil.

    Again, I get your points. I'm just pointing out not because it's theoretically possible, that doesn't mean it's also realistically feasible.
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  2. #242
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    Flippers have and will continue to just set up an fc and check every hour for plots that are auto-relinquished, buy them on the character that has buy rights and then leave the fc in the hands of the holding account while they dart over to the next fc to check for more houses. With two accounts, they can prep to buy two houses at a time fairly quickly this way and it doesn't take them long to offload anything with a house usually unless they're asking 200m for a small. If the house were to relinquish if a valid 'purchaser' isn't found when changing hands, then it'd at least slow them down to one fc house at a time since the purchasing account can't leave and thus their entire account is blocked from purchasing more.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Flippers have and will continue to just set up an fc and check every hour for plots that are auto-relinquished, buy them on the character that has buy rights and then leave the fc in the hands of the holding account while they dart over to the next fc to check for more houses. With two accounts, they can prep to buy two houses at a time fairly quickly this way and it doesn't take them long to offload anything with a house usually unless they're asking 200m for a small. If the house were to relinquish if a valid 'purchaser' isn't found when changing hands, then it'd at least slow them down to one fc house at a time since the purchasing account can't leave and thus their entire account is blocked from purchasing more.
    Dusty is correct. They will just flip at a slower pace.
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    Kinda just jumping in here, but I'd just like to express... I'm so excited for the futons like you wouldn't believe. Can't wait for patch to go live!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nranola View Post
    Kinda just jumping in here, but I'd just like to express... I'm so excited for the futons like you wouldn't believe. Can't wait for patch to go live!!
    Yeah they look pretty cute. I am a 5 book omicrafter so I am hoping I see the recipe when I log in!
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  6. #246
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    F-Futons? where did they show them? I'm trying to make something like that and cant do it without some serious glitching
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    F-Futons? where did they show them? I'm trying to make something like that and cant do it without some serious glitching
    Last picture on the first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Last picture on the first post.
    Oh that post changed and i didnt look back, I WANT IT!
    Prop will craft several if materials arent a nightmare
    Thanks so much.
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    That little bathtubs made it in also right? I'd pop one in my apt. Adorable.
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  10. #250
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    Saw the youtube link. I stand corrected. Heard that placing items out in the void can bypass item count, guess that would made the fix a valid and necessary one. Just hope they don't fix the other glitch while they are at it.
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