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    Additional housing slots per character

    This isn't a troll post. I'm just bored. I hope there's a difference?

    Anyways, the question. What do people feel if Square-Enix allowed player to purchase additional housing unlocks through the mog station.

    For example, you can have 2 retainers, but if you want a third--you pay extra dollars per month.

    (Assuming) Housing isn't severely limited. How would people feel about Square-Enix charging extra for extra housing unlocks per account?

    For example, you get 1 house per server. But maybe you pay 5 bucks extra per month and you get an additional house slot per character/server.

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    That way people who want multiple houses per account can get one, and Square-Enix can't use the cop-out that it's too resource intensive, because they can funnel that money back into the servers. Isn't that kind of the philosophy behind extra retainers?
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    Here is my problem with this.

    If you pay $5, you expect to be guaranteed a second house. That means the server has to offer that space (no matter how stretched its resource might be).

    In this case, what happens to the other players who do not yet have their one free house because the free plots are all taken?

    I believe this is similar to the Balmung population lock issue. You can not create a character there but a paid transfer was always allowed (for a long time).
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    That's why I stated (Assuming) that housing isn't severely limited anymore.

    But perhaps, maybe if Square-Enix had more resources being pooled into their servers they could justify adding more houses. Not just for the first free one, but also to provide for anyone who would want one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    Square-Enix had more resources being pooled into their servers...
    If SE has enough resources, I much rather they fix the entire system from ground up - meaning, instanced housing.

    If you truly are bored, I suggest you go back to housing threads from 2017 July onwards about 4.1 Shirogane housing release. This proposal of "popping up unlimited wards" was one of the heavily discussed topics.

    Main issue: stress on server, causing instability, yes you may be paying for it, but players will simply leave the house empty (like they already are), and I don't think a few bucks can cover server cost over long term.
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    You mentioned instanced housing. Would you by chance be in favor of Non-instanced FC housing wards, but instanced personal wards?

    And thanks again for the mention. I'll check it out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    ... in favor of Non-instanced FC housing wards, but instanced personal wards?
    You're welcome!

    To be specific, I am in favour of non-instanced FC housing wards, and instanced personal houses.

    This was given example by someone else (sorry I forgot who to credit to): basically, the ward remains a ward. A few houses (small/med/large) is chosen, so that these locations become "instanced personal" areas where upon entry, players enters an instanced housing perimeter. Much similar to apartment, but instead of a small block of space, you get a full on house and garden. May have a "dummy" ward background instead of black emptiness, of course.

    Some suggested that the personal instanced housing become upgradable - more versatile depending on the individual's finance situations.
    ^They might do this for apartments in the future though, as mentioned in the LL announcing 4.2 late last year.

    This way, you ensure that the ward is used to its full capacity while satisfying the housing needs of many without supply issues.
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    I would rather see something like a 10-15$ one time fee for an instanced house accessible by alts and shareable with friends. Like a mansion on a floating rock in the sea of clouds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyvara View Post
    I would rather see something like a 10-15$ one time fee for an instanced house accessible by alts and shareable with friends. Like a mansion on a floating rock in the sea of clouds.
    This idea was also mentioned back in 4.1 housing debate (sorry if you were the originator lol). Your suggestions, sir, sounds brilliant, but of course, again, needs SE to redesign housing from ground up. Some one suggested housing should be on clouds, and can you can even decide where to "park" the cloud, whether it be sea of clouds or atop Kugane.

    Alt-sharing should definitely be added - however, this is mainly a measure to counter against gil-botters/sellers, since that means they can transfer immense amounts of gil between characters (even though they are already doing this via shell FCs). Interestingly I have yet to seen anyone to offer this as an explanation for why there is no alt-sharing on FFXIV (can't even add as friends).
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    I would be ok with a one-time fee, but since they don't do one-time fees with retainers I thought it was more logical to follow Square-Enix's example.

    I'd have all 8 retainers if I could pay a one-time fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amomomo View Post
    This idea was also mentioned back in 4.1 housing debate (sorry if you were the originator lol). Your suggestions, sir, sounds brilliant, but of course, again, needs SE to redesign housing from ground up. Some one suggested housing should be on clouds, and can you can even decide where to "park" the cloud, whether it be sea of clouds or atop Kugane.

    Alt-sharing should definitely be added - however, this is mainly a measure to counter against gil-botters/sellers, since that means they can transfer immense amounts of gil between characters (even though they are already doing this via shell FCs). Interestingly I have yet to seen anyone to offer this as an explanation for why there is no alt-sharing on FFXIV (can't even add as friends).
    No wasn't me! I started in October with a friend. We chose FFXIV because of glamour and housing. Then came the disappointment. At this point I would sell your grandparents for a house! Apartments don't cut it as my GF and I like to share a home and deco it together. But that's all a bit off topic.

    After reading Jack's post about retainers I suppose my answer is yeah I would shell out a few extra bucks.
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