How to make lillies useful

[Jxnibbles]

Honestly what would holy do for us outside of dungeons? DB healing I don't know, P1 is just boring I don't even know what I would want from it.

Lilies in its current form is useless with how fights are designed in this game since cooldowns are basically set in stone.

I would much rather see them make lilies something that is desirable like some form of unique utility. After the healing requirement which all 3 healers will always meet we offer nothing major to the party.

We also lose in Personal Dps to sch on boss fights thanks to all the ogcd healing they have. Both Sch and Astro can ogcd for Aetherflow and Cards. We have zero ways of generating useless lilies outside of gcds. Our rescources is also used on our first cooldown regardless if we want to or not, While both Astro and Sch can more freely use and hold theirs..

If someone brings up but Whm in dungeon. That is not what classes should be balanced around they should be balanced around boss fights.

[Sebazy]

If someone brings up but Whm in dungeon. That is not what classes should be balanced around they should be balanced around boss fights.

It's ironic that I actually get very good use out of Lilies as they are in dungeons

Unless sigmascape has a lot more tank healing, chances are my Lily gauge is just going to get shoo'd off to a dark corner of my screen come raid time though.

@OP

IMHO You're missing the issue here. The benefits of Lilies are actually reasonably ok. The problem here is that you stop getting enough to make any kind of an impact the moment you've learned an encounter and start optimising things. I pretty much gave up on DB in O4S because I just couldn't guarantee I'd have Lilies or even any way to generate one. That's one horrible bit of design if you ask me.

[Jxnibbles]

It's ironic that I actually get very good use out of Lilies as they are in dungeons

Unless sigmascape has a lot more tank healing, chances are my Lily gauge is just going to get shoo'd off to a dark corner of my screen come raid time though.

@OP

IMHO You're missing the issue here. The benefits of Lilies are actually reasonably ok. The problem here is that you stop getting enough to make any kind of an impact the moment you've learned an encounter and start optimising things. I pretty much gave up on DB in O4S because I just couldn't guarantee I'd have Lilies or even any way to generate one. That's one horrible bit of design if you ask me.

One of my biggest complaints with lilies is the fact it is extremely limited since if you use a cooldown it is gone you can't just hold it. With Astro and Sch you can more freely hold/use onto Aetherflow stacks and Cards.