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  1. #71
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I feel like we're prepping to dismiss this JP guys floor 200 solo clear before it's even been done.

    If they get floor 200 solo it won't be just pure luck, it'll be luck combined with knowing what they're doing and practicing it. Sure, the luck factor should be much less important, but 99% of players, even if they were even luckier than this guy, wouldn't be capable of making it as far.
    We are not saying that you dont have to be good at the job but since people also tried to reach that high they know that its mostly luck. Nobody gets the same spawns or same rates of pomanders. If you dont get certain pomanders you wont survive certain bosses. Also the timer is one huge point too which can only be solved if you have certains pomanders with you otherwise you will run out of time and probably get one-shotted by some monsters. x)

    So sadly this is still mostly luck.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  2. #72
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Until the affirmation "you need pomander X to clear boss Y" is true, potd 200 is luck only.
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  3. #73
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Until the affirmation "you need pomander X to clear boss Y" is true, potd 200 is luck only.
    Getting solo 200 requires doing everything that it's possible to control the outcome of near flawlessly, it also requires a lot of luck along with it (unfortunately.) But to say that it's luck only is incorrect.

    If someone manages it I'll be impressed, regardless of my own feelings on the content and how I think it should be changed.
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  4. #74
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  5. #75
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    Ash Primordial
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    Even though it has been cleared I would like to decrease RNG, because you cant beat it without ok/good luck.
    I thought about it a bit, some suggestion here were a bit to largescale for SE I fear, so I go with a tiny one now that should work too...

    The Pomander of Affluence currently only increases the chance of chests on the next floor, it is an RNG item, could be that it has no real use to you or could be that it is very useful.
    I would change it that it always spawns 1 steel and 1 strength chest at the next floor, instead of x random ones. It will still be troublesome/maybe impossible to try to get those chests on higher floors, this isn't a big gamechanger but its an opportunity to not end the run prematurely because of lack of steel and strength.
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  6. #76
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    Congrats to Usagi Mimi! Wish I could see a video of it, myself.

    But, yeah.

    It's like the S-rank Tiger mount, but 10 times worse. Unless SE does something to change the way it's tuned, Usagi might see only a handful of other players sit beside them during the entire life-time of FFXIV with that victory.

    But, we should be getting the second Deep Dungeon this year. So, anything could change with how the system will work when you see only one player (or a few, since we have time) out of millions could do it.
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  7. #77
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    Congratulation on the one that cleared it. That takes quite a huge dedictation to continue banging your head against that.

    Still hope that this does not mean that we wont get any kind of changes because even if its clearable its still just too much.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    ...Usagi might see only a handful of other players red mages ...
    Fixed that for you.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    ... no freaking kidding.

    Watch, Vercure will get nerfed and then no one will ever clear it ever again.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    It's like the S-rank Tiger mount, but 10 times worse.
    I'd argue it's even worse because with hunts, no progress is ever lost. You might progress as a snail's pace but you're still making progress. I got 7 S rank kills today alone, not a bad haul, now sure I got lucky, but it's not like if I had missed any of those hunts my counter would've been reset. And certainly not to bad rng and connectivity issues. I dare say a lot more people would've cleared it by now if the mode had been even a bit more forgiving. Letting you start at 151 for instance would've left you with a lack of pomanders, sure, but at least then if you botched the boss you'd have just had to start there, no 100 floors before. That sort of handicap makes the tiger and the mentor roulette achievs look like child's play - at least there you always move up with the count.
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