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    Quote Originally Posted by MahoSenshi View Post
    You're not paying for my sub!!!

    Seruously, though, its a very rare occurence and half of the time PLD is actually right. When mass pulling, healer DPS CGD >> PLD GCD. So, spamming Clemency to keep themselves alive while healer DPS-es is a good thing to do.
    When my exogitation falls off instead of being used because the pld is standing there clemency-ing himself, he is 100% in the wrong. Just use your dumb spinny attack that ya'll begged for so much and let me do my job. I don't need your help to dps and heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    When my exogitation falls off instead of being used because the pld is standing there clemency-ing himself, he is 100% in the wrong. Just use your dumb spinny attack that ya'll begged for so much and let me do my job. I don't need your help to dps and heal.
    Still kinda don't pay his/her sub. Just saiyan. If the PLD is not really confident in you to keep them alive, then he/she has every right to use Clemency.

    Fyi, our "dumb spinny attack" is called "Total Eclipse". Level PLD and you'd know the skill's name. *shrugs*

    /2 cents
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    Last edited by Usho; 01-24-2018 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Still kinda don't pay his/her sub. Just saiyan. If the PLD is not really confident in you to keep them alive, then he/she has every right to use Clemency.

    Fyi, our "dumb spinny attack" is called "Total Eclipse". Level PLD and you'd know the skill's name. *shrugs*

    /2 cents
    My PLD's at 70, my dear. It will remain dumb spinny attack however every time I refer to it, regardless.

    And, amazingly enough, if you don't have confidence in your healer, healing yourself is not going to fix the problem. My healing cooldowns are there for a reason. You wasting a GCD healing yourself for a tankbuster, I've been prepared for for the past 45 seconds is not clearing content faster.

    Nor is you killing the DRK during Akh Morn because you wanting to help heal wasted his Walking Dead. (Note: this happened. My friend on DRK was less than pleased.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    My PLD's at 70, my dear. It will remain dumb spinny attack however every time I refer to it, regardless.

    And, amazingly enough, if you don't have confidence in your healer, healing yourself is not going to fix the problem. My healing cooldowns are there for a reason. You wasting a GCD healing yourself for a tankbuster, I've been prepared for for the past 45 seconds is not clearing content faster.

    Nor is you killing the DRK during Akh Morn because you wanting to help heal wasted his Walking Dead. (Note: this happened. My friend on DRK was less than pleased.)
    so i guess clemency should just never be used unless the party is about to wipe, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    so i guess clemency should just never be used unless the party is about to wipe, right?
    You can use Clemency outside of wipe situations while also using it intelligently. You don't need to spam it on yourself unless your healer(s) is obviously struggling. You don't need to heal other party members. Use your head. And for christ sakes being below 75% does not mean you need to be topped off. HOTs are a thing. Eos/Selene is a thing. Let them serve their purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    When my exogitation falls off instead of being used because the pld is standing there clemency-ing himself, he is 100% in the wrong. Just use your dumb spinny attack that ya'll begged for so much and let me do my job. I don't need your help to dps and heal.
    So when a healer thinks he can heal and can't even keep us alive yes we will be more than happy to spin around and pretend it's not the healers fault....Or perhaps when they do regen or actions during a pull...yeah people don't pay other peoples subscription either way just because you call your self a healer doesn't mean you can heal. Same for a tank, using clemency is a tool for us to survive when we can tell some healers are incompetent ( not all just most ) and we have really only one rule in our mind...stay alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    When my exogitation falls off instead of being used because the pld is standing there clemency-ing himself, he is 100% in the wrong. Just use your dumb spinny attack that ya'll begged for so much and let me do my job. I don't need your help to dps and heal.
    Excog still terminates after timer:
    Grants target party member other than self the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member's HP falls below 50% or upon effect duration expiration.
    Cure Potency: 800
    Duration: 45s
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

    Perhaps though the full effect is what you are referring to?: This make me feel safer they did this incase the excog wasn't going to be enough in the end and they timed it to clem themselves with the excog going off at the sameish time to fully full tank heal themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockHarley View Post
    Excog still terminates after timer:
    Grants target party member other than self the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member's HP falls below 50% or upon effect duration expiration.
    Cure Potency: 800
    Duration: 45s
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

    Perhaps though the full effect is what you are referring to?: This make me feel safer they did this incase the excog wasn't going to be enough in the end and they timed it to clem themselves with the excog going off at the sameish time to fully full tank heal themselves.
    The fact that it heals at all upon the duration expiring was something added in in 4.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    The fact that it heals at all upon the duration expiring was something added in in 4.2.
    heh, I clearly pay 0 attention to these updates, I should really change that lolol.

    I hope you're having a good day too, ty for replying^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockHarley View Post
    heh, I clearly pay 0 attention to these updates, I should really change that lolol.

    I hope you're having a good day too, ty for replying^^
    You as well.
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