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  1. #31
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    RopeDrink's Avatar
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    Chloe Redstone
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Cleric Stance: 15 sec with %5 buff. Just why? Another braindead ability. Please make it %10 or 20 buff or extend the duration so we can be happy.
    Can't speak for the other classes, but when that 5% is being multiplied by WHM-Holy vs X mobs during tri/quad-pulls, the damage is not to be sniffed at. You can bet your Lal'ass that I'm opening on that triple pack with QC-Holy followed by PoM/TA/CS > HOLY, HOLY, HOLY BAZINGA. Think of that Stingray quad-pull in Skalla. Now, add 5% to every hit from Holy on that (I dunno, 10-12+ mobs?)

    NOTE: I'm certainly not advocating it as 'good', but it has its place... For some... For now... However niche. Still, until they make something else worth taking over it, I'll always have it on my bar when I know Esuna isn't required.

    QCas/Prot/Luci/Larg/Cleri for me, with Esuna replacing Cleric only in specific content where I know dispels are required and DPS windows will suffer.

    SIDENOTE: To those saying Protect is only useful at the start, well... Yes and no. While the defensive stats it provides aren't mandatory, I'd hate to cast it once and remove it for the rest of the dungeon seeing as there's quite a lot of situations where you're raising a bunch of mechanic-eating plebeians who would benefit from a re-cast so that you stave off some additional damage-taken (however small). Considering how poor the Role-Action selection is, I have room for Protect AND Cleric because a lot of the choices are just nonsensical or stupendously niche.
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  2. #32
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RopeDrink View Post
    Protect
    In situations where people die I wait until after a pull to reapply protect, after switching it back in. But generally only if it's the tank. I might reapply it if it's a DPS but sometimes I don't bother because I'm lazy.
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  3. #33
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I rock cleric all the time, idk what you're all on about.
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  4. #34
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    Jollyy5's Avatar
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    Raul Prower
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 71
    I often use Cleric Stance too since Largesse as SCH is pretty meh, but it sure doesn't feel good to use.
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  5. #35
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm a "protect once then swap" kinda guy. Protect needs to be removed, it's pointless, and they should just buff everyone's base defense to compensate. Or even better rework it into the PvP version.

    Surecast is much better than people give it credit for. The amount of knockbacks/tilts/draw in effects in recent times has increased massively, and being able to cheese them on such a short cooldown is amazing. Especially since the change that means that the buff lasts the whole duration and isn't consumed on a single cast. It's way more impactful and useful than esuna, which is mandatory in like 2 fights.
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  6. #36
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    I often use Cleric Stance too since Largesse as SCH is pretty meh, but it sure doesn't feel good to use.
    Well, indeed, largess doesn't affect aetherflow heals and the fairy but
    Getting a 20% boost on shield is still great and free (and since they reduced Fey Illumination to 10%)
    That's still a great tool even if scholar only has 3 spells that uses it.

    Besides, stronger shields mean less healing to do, so eventually more dps for both healers.

    I wouldn't swap largess for Cleric Stance.
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  7. #37
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    I often use Cleric Stance too since Largesse as SCH is pretty meh, but it sure doesn't feel good to use.
    Largesse, mixed with Fey Illum leads to some amazing Critlos.
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  8. #38
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    Jollyy5's Avatar
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    Raul Prower
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Largesse, mixed with Fey Illum leads to some amazing Critlos.
    I get that, but in dungeons I only ever use Adlo 6-10 times, and half of the time it's to apply a shield on the tank before they pull mobs, Excog, fairy and OGCDs do the rest.

    Even in higher end content like Shinryu, Excog on one tank and basic Adlo on the other does the job for Ahk Morn, Whispering Dawn and whatever regen effects the other healer has on them take care of the rest, Succor is only ever used to put a shield on the group before and sometimes after AoE damage.

    I would only ever really appreciate having Largesse on me if the other healer is dead for whatever reason and Swiftcast isn't up.

    I mean, at the end of the day, Eos does 50%+ of my healing, Indo, Excog and Lustrate following after, and then maybe Galvanize...
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  9. #39
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    Waemliht's Avatar
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    Character
    Corpse Flower
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Speaking as someone that stuck with scholar even when we were considered under performing, don't buff us. Dissipation is fine. It takes like 3 seconds to summon a faerie and you get 3 aether and 15 seconds off the aetherflow cooldown. There's two instances in Neo exdeath where you get to use dissipation for free making mana an almost non-issue. Excog is just lustrate-but-better and the new 4.2 buff to it makes it almost brain dead to utilize. Indom is stupid broken. Buffing us would be stupid.
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  10. #40
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Waemliht View Post
    snip.
    Personaly the only thing I would like is the buff to only last 15sec. I just don't need it for that long. And also that the healing buff affects our ogcd.
    But that's more something that would affect all healers.

    Im in a way disappointed at the excitement buff, I just don't see the point, this game does not lack tank buster where it can be used.
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