What Happens To Houses We Have on Same World? Do We Get Our Money Back?

[Acilith]

Didn't they show in the live letter what it looks like when you try to log in with more than two houses? If they have that implemented, the houses are probably not getting grandfathered. You'll probably get your gil back though.

Does anyone have any more information about this?

[Elamys]

It only because a problem when people got a literal free ride to the server, and then cried when there were no houses for them.

Then they bought more houses after the server became active, and bought most of them around when transfers were announced. And that's just unfair to new players who might have joined in Stormblood. I say this as someone with a house. They're an embarrassment. And sure, they can do whatever they want with their houses, at least they've done sort of something, but they're just huge snobs that don't want to have a paissa house for a neighbor. They knew what they were doing and I don't have any sympathy for people with 10+ houses that might end up losing them.

[worldofneil]

Does anyone have any more information about this?

Yoshida said in Japanese on the live stream that existing owners wouldn't lose their housing, but we've just had a confirmation of this in English too:

Yoshida mentioned during the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XLI that the rules being added in Patch 4.2 will be applicable to new purchases only. Players who already possess more than one FC estate and 1 personal estate per world will not lose their existing housing.

[LaylaTsarra]

Yoshida said in Japanese on the live stream that existing owners wouldn't lose their housing, but we've just had a confirmation of this in English too:

Thank you for the confirmation. Is there a link to this that you can provide... looks like a forum post and wonder if there is more that was said in reference to housing.

Edit: I see it posted in the other thread here on the forum. Ty

[worldofneil]

Is there a link to this that you can provide

I see you've since found it, but FYI with all forum posts you can just click the little blue to link to the original post

[Millen1]

I would be okay if people stopped playing because their multiple houses got taken away and they could only have one. More housing for everyone else. Plus they are like what...1% or 2% of the player base...maybe even less. Wonder what % of the player base has been desperately trying to get a house? Its much larger. But really these people aren't going to stop playing..because their other house will also be lost. Lucky for them SE feels the need to be super duper nice and let people keep them.

Some of us have been here since Beta and never stopped or unsubbed. When housing came out gil was insanely tight and on the new servers a large was 120m for the new servers like mine. I think about 250m for legacy servers. When FC housing went live I spent months crafting and gathering as an officer of the FC I was in at the time and came up with a little over 30 million for the house.(large FC, 500 players). The FC master and a few of his friends did the same and that FC house took months to get the gil to buy the plot. Fast forward to now with lots of gil in the game and inflation, 40m for a large plot on my server and I would guess some other servers, this is pocket change now. Those that joined the game later missed that high prices we first bought at. I later moved on to start my own FC and spent months crafting and gathering for it. I paid 95% of it on my own, the other 5% came from a person that helped start the FC but quit the game while we worked towards the FC plot. The same with personal housing, I played more than one char and I had more than one house all bought at high prices when very few could afford housing and plots were open in goblet. Things went down hill when they dropped the housing cost, more could own a house and the lower cost brought in the house flipper which started to dry up housing and flipped them on reddit. Low buy in with players willing to pay 100s of millions if not a billion in some cases to get the house. In my opinion those were done by actual rmt companies because of the massive margins that could be rapidly made.

SE took far too long to identify this and fix it. I agree with some of their fixes but not all of them, some could have been done long ago and would have killed flipping instantly while still allowing for those that really wanted to get an extra house to do so. The price should have also been kept high. The game is a grind and so was housing at first. The places I had were all bought at the highest values and they meant a lot to me and were used almost everyday. When I gave two of them up, I didn't wait 45 days to get 80% of my gil back. I demolished them and then gave a shout in Idyllshire during prime time to give the most notice that a plot was open. Even posted it in FC discord days before demolishing it, though no one there wanted a medium in goblet even with the lack of housing.

As for harassing players that have been on dead servers and had open housing until SE re balanced the servers to use up all housing, it was never an issue and now these players are harassed for following the rules and having done nothing wrong. It is a shame to see that happening.

As for 1 or 2 % of the player base. Tossing them aside is a bad idea. In HW when savage A1s to A4S came out, even the top raiders took a long time to down it. Many raiders on my friends list left the game forever and it was a large skills drain. So don't toss any small % of players out that are following the rules because you some how feel wronged by them.

[JackHatchet]

If you only play for your house you should quit and play The Sims.

Holy hell, do people not understand how MMOs work.

MMOs are social games for people to play together. They're not designed for the social outcasts to hoard houses or play tea-parties with their retainers.

The problem with most people who have more than one house is that they're so short-sighted that it makes my head hurt. Take a moment to consider what the real intention of these features were. Do you honestly think anyone at Square-Enix said "yes, these houses are limited, and people should hoard them!"

So they made an oversight. Square-Enix certainly dropped the ball on housing, but just because they made a mistake doesn't mean you should play dumb too. Try to think critically for once. Don't look at a system thinking "how far can I exploit this?" Instead try looking at a system and thinking-critically on "what's the intention of this system."

If you think the system was designed for people to hoard houses and deprive other people from property then you've failed the thinking-critically part.

[JackHatchet]

I think what really grinds my gear is the utter lack of empathy house hoarders have.

We're talking about people who have no emotional ability to connect with the rest of society. They don't understand why it's wrong for them to over-extend while others have not. It would be one thing to say "yeah, I appreciated extra housing when no one needed it, so it was fun while it lasted." And another thing to be all "yeah, those people missed out. Sucks to be them. My 3 alts need their RP houses!"

The problem is that these people can't even understand or comprehend why they're actions are wrong. They sit there confused. "I don't know why everyone is so mad!"

[Kittypryde]

LOL okay....haha

[Rinuko]

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Wish there was a dislike button.

So you're telling me cause I, someone who love this game to the death and been active since alpha 1.0 who play all classes, love crafting and gathering AND decordating my houses, cause yes I have and had multible houses (currently own 3 houses incl 1 FC mansion) should be punished for following the game rules?

I can agree with people who are against people who buy plots solely to resell them but majority of us who own multiple houses actually use them actively and have them all decorated.

Dont hate the player, hate the game