My points on SCH, AST, WHM and healer role actions

[PerrinTaveren]

Hello, i wanted to share my opinions just for fun :3

I will just write which abilities, in my opinion, needs a poking.

SCH

Dissipation: I think it is just useless. I have been a sch main over 2 years now and i have never used it once. I may be wrong, there can be uses and i think it is not necessary. And idea: It may reset fairy gauge and replace it with aetherflow instead of killing my beautiful angels!
Excogitation: In most situations it wears off. I know they are poking it in 4.2 but instead of just ticking the healing, i think it can make a shield of the healing potency or something. If it isn't used anyway, which means tank is above %50 hp and why would i need it to tick?.. It has some uses and a great ability but your fellow healer needs to notice (hahaha) you put excog on tank <3
Aetherpact: Make fairy use its actions as well under fey union (god pleaseee!)
Eos: Make her hug us!
Selene: Poor soul. Rework silent dusk please... It is another useless ability. Maybe make it like a magical vulnerability ability to mobs or something. I don't care if it is just another heal tbh, i wouldn't care if they removed it because it is useless anyway. And also fey wind needs its potency up. Poor selene. You are homeless girl.

AST

Honestly can't find anything to say. Don't need nerfing, but don't need more utility in other expansions in my opinion.

WHM

Aero II and III: It really bugs me one of them is 18 sec, and the other 24 sec. Idk why, i keep on not putting aero II out of laziness because i can't stone enough!
Thin Air: Don't need touching, it is the best ability in the entire universe <3 Also maybe benediction. Maybe.

ROLE ACTIONS

Cleric Stance: 15 sec with %5 buff. Just why? Another braindead ability. Please make it %10 or 20 buff or extend the duration so we can be happy.
Break: Why?
Protect: It just covers a precious spot and it is useless for the rest of the dungeon etc. It should be removed.
Esuna: Needs to be not a role action. I miss leeches and exalted detriment. Yes, you make me miss them. Please remove this as a role action because it is kinda, you know, mandatory.
Surecast: We, for sure, need this. (being sarcastic). :3
Rescue: LALALALALA. He he.

Sorry for saying not much about AST and WHM, i think they are in a good spot right now. SCH needs poking though and idk why they ignore it. And ofc, role actions are disappointing. They said ''revamped actions!'' for sb. But all we got is rescue. They trolled hard. Role actions must be not mandatory, they need to be useful abilities which are optional. Like largesse or eye for an eye. They are an example in my opinion. Making lucid dreaming, esuna, swiftcast a role action is just useless.

Anyway if you read this, thank you. <3

[VanilleFang]

Thin Air is good but I would argue Assize is the best ability in a WHM's kit.

[SilentVoice]

SCH

Dissipation: I think it is just useless. I have been a sch main over 2 years now and i have never used it once. I may be wrong, there can be uses and i think it is not necessary. And idea: It may reset fairy gauge and replace it with aetherflow instead of killing my beautiful angels!
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I said it before and i'll say it again - this is an Emergency skill. if you main SCH and you do prog or pug, then you should understand how this skill can save the day. i think the main issue of most people with Dissipation is that it is not used at all in normal "perfect group" runs and also the fact that it wastes Fariy Gauge, but there were many time i could save my group a wipe and get a first kill simply because i could get these 3 aetherflow stacks to heal up tank and group along with healing potency increase. so i don't think this ability needs and overhaul, maybe just unsummon and instant resummon once it wears off

[Myrhn]

Yes Dissipation!! Please make it to re-summon the fairy that's all I ask.

[PerrinTaveren]

benediction is an emergency tool as well, they can extend the cooldown time and make dissaption like that. I mean like every 3 min, it gives you extra 3 stacks or something. Because it is designed to make your fairy go away right now, and summoning it asap afterwards doesn't make sense a bit. They need to change how that ability works in the end. It is not optimal in my opinion.

[Sylvain]

I think dissipation needs 2 change
1: the healing potency and fairy ban reduced to 15sec.
As silent voice said, it is an emergency skill. However usually an emergency doesn't last 30sec.

The lost of the gaug doesn't help and should in fact either be kept or be consumed for further buff in a way or another.
The auto résumons would be nice but since they nerfed the mana cost and cast time, resummoning the fairy isn't an issue. If after the emergency you can find time to dps the boss, Im pretty sure you can fit a gcd to summon it back
Regarding fey wind I do not agree with a buff to 5% without affecting the cd.
AST strength is his buffs. It has the least potency and ogcd heal as well as the worst ma a management. All of these flaw are compensated by having the best group (dps) utility.

Buffing fey wind to 5% would equal it to a spread arrow every min which would equal AST buffing capacity with the same buff. However unlike AST.,fey wind isn't random. You will ALWAYS have it every min where as AST has to not only tool around the cards (every sec you waste doing so pile up and eventually every cd you lost Time will turn into a lost card cd), and is random. I rarely get a spread arrow/balance every min.

So while there is sleeve draw, it is still a draw and I got my fair share of spread tower with stored tower

If you take into account AST randomness + low personal dps, buffing Selene to 5% could very well make Sch bring more dps and heal than AST to the raid in most scenario (excluding those snowflake event where you just keep drawing aoe balance,)

Small note regarding exo, the point of Sch is to prevent damage, in this case you need to know when the damage comes. The skill is already quite strong and good at what it does, I really don't see why you want it to make a shield, why would you need to heal if it fades when the tank was full? Well you just failed to use the spell like popping lucid dream in a transition while you're already at full mana would be a failed used of the skill.
I'm personally really surprised they allowed it to proc at the end of its duration as imo it wasn't necessary, this game doesn't lack tank burster or occasions to use it.

I mean what's next? Fading shield should also turn into a heal because it didn't absorb anything?

[Jollyy5]

Yeah Dissipation is a bit questionable, that 20% healing boost doesn't do much for a SCH as it only really affects Physic, Adlo and Succor which aren't used a whole lot for any actual healing, not to mention that most of your healing comes from Eos anyway, which kind of nullifies the 20% healing bonus.

The only neat thing about it is the Aetherflow refill, but it's just never worth it to use Dissipation if you have even one stack of Aetherflow on you or if Swiftcast is up.

I mean, if you ever find yourself in a situation where everyone is dying and you have no Aetherflow stacks, no Swiftcast and Aetherflow skill is on cooldown, THEN it might be worth using Dissipation if you have Indomitability at ready, but it's still such a niche skill and I hate it.

[Sebazy]

I said it before and i'll say it again - this is an Emergency skill. if you main SCH and you do prog or pug, then you should understand how this skill can save the day.

The problem with it being used as an emergency cooldown is the latency involved both mechanically (how quickly you can hit your dissipation then start mashing Lustrate/Indom) alongside the net code limitations of this game where your client will wait for the server to tell it that you indeed have those Aetherflow charges.

It's got a little value if things are steadily going south and you don't have any fairy gauge, but as a snap cooldown for panic situations, it's rarely fast enough. If it automatically lustrated your target as you used the dissipation, that would change things massively with it.

[PerrinTaveren]

Well, yes ast cards are random and fey wind is consistent, but ast cards are ALWAYS useful now. With the change of spear, they are all valuable. I don't mean ast is op or anything, and i didn't make the comparison between ast and sch, ast is fine as it is now, but i don't think they should utilize it even further if they will keep whm and sch's utilies the same. What i meant by fey wind needs buff is, there is a lot less reason to use selene instead of eos. Eos' abilities basically makes you dps more which negates fey wind. Fey wind needs to be stronger so you can use it efficiently, atop of your dps. Idk if i make sense, but well, with eos i dps more, with selene i can't. and fey wind being like this makes me not to choose selene basically.

[Jollyy5]

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This is a really good point, many consider Benediction to be somewhat unreliable as a true emergency heal, but it still comes out faster than a Lustrate/Indom after Dissipation, and it doesn't sacrifice your most valuable healing tool for it.