Suggestion: Monk dragon kick change

[Pondera]

so, I was reading reddit recently on the topic of greedy DPS, as in DPS that do not offer as much, if any, raid utility to others, such as black mage, and it was mentioned that a dragoon with bard and machinist back up can already eclipse it in terms of DPS because of the piercing damage debuff that helps everyone and then something occurred.

Dragoons benefit 2 other classes as well as itself. Ninja benefits samurai, warrior, and dark knight with its slashing debuff. Summoner does so as well to an extent for those who like to use Garuda. Monk benefits ONLY itself with its blunt debuff, which AFAIK, no other class in the game has.

So, I would suggest that that blunt debuff be changed to a physical vulnerability debuff in general. Even if you cut the debuff in half to 5%, the fact that other members of the team are benefitting from that would still show an increase in raid wide DPS.

[ErryK]

Monk already has that, it's called Brotherhood.

[Slirith]

Could also change it so it effects blunt dmg and a magic debuff like Foes

[Canadane]

Let's just make a new blunt class instead!

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Change MCH to Blunt based damage and that opens up different comps. Granted, I'm not really a fan of how dependent BRD/MCH are on another job for their damage.

[Xau]

i don't tink they will do any kind of change of this kind since... SE seems like is very stubborn about making very relevant drg, nin and brd, and making every other dps job fight for the fourth slot

[Fredco191]

Let's just make a new blunt class instead!

How about those guys who carry coffins on their arms in POTD?

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Monk benefits ONLY itself with its blunt debuff, which AFAIK, no other class in the game has.

While not exactly the focus of the classes, WHM BLM SCH SMN and maybe AST are all Blunt in terms of their melee damage output. So while saying MNK is the only Blunt class may be correct in practical terms, it is not factually correct.

[Pondera]

Monk already has that, it's called Brotherhood.

not exactly what I'm talking about. Dragoon's piercing debuff grants extra damage to machinist, itself, and bard, and if the player knows what they are doing, this is kept up nearly 100% of the time and has no max radius single it effects a single target. Brotherhood has a 90s CD, and a 15 yalm radius, so even when a monk can generate the effect, some people could be missed with the effect.

[ErryK]

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What you're asking for is for Monk to be taken instead of Dragoon. Dragoon won't matter anymore because who wants to benefit three party members when they can benefit six? Let alone the fact that it would be a constant buff kept up on the boss (or kept up as much as possible). It would be insanely overpowered. Since that takes piercing resistance out of the question, you don't even need to consider Battle Litany anymore when Monk can essentially bring in it's own Trick Attack for physical jobs every three minutes when you combine Brotherhood with the "new" Dragon Kick. It just means healers and casters, yet again, get screwed because of the lack of party utility for them... but you also screw over Dragoons now too.

5% Physical Vulnerability benefits not only the Monk themselves, but the Ninja, Bard, Machinist and tanks that are in the party. It would essentially make MNK "meta" and simply exacerbate the problem with balance. 10% would be overkill due to the fact that it is 10% Physical Vulnerability, not resistance.

If it were to be anywhere near what you're asking, as in to be useful, it would need to be a 2% or 1% Physical Resistance or simply make Machinist blunt damage, as that would make Dragoon less relied upon for the "meta" composition. Ultimately, something needs to change with Monk, or other jobs need to change or be introduced (and be useful) for Monk to be useful to its fullest.