What are the most common reasons people don't dps?

[Jollyy5]

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Despite your numerous posts, I still can't tell if you are for or against healer DPS... If you approve of healer DPS, why are you arguing with all these people who approve of healer DPS as well?

I too have tried to "see your point" and I'm assuming that while you approve of healer DPS, you feel the game doesn't encourage healers to DPS while it actually does, but just doesn't do it very well (See posts about Hall of the Novice, solo quests, NPCs). It is unfortunate, but at least there are myriad players out there to do that for them.

Anyway, the point is that all of us who are for healer DPS are only asking people to do their ABCs (Always Be Casting ((something useful)), and I for one expect any average human being to be able to comply, but in case when I politely tell someone to not sit on their hands and deal some damage when healing isn't needed, and they tell me they can't because they only have one arm, I understand they have a disability and leave it at that, rare as they are.

And if someone can't DPS during that solid 10 seconds window when no damage is happening because they are "feeling anxious", FFXIV might not be the healthiest thing for them...

[Vyriah]

Despite your numerous posts, I still can't tell if you are for or against healer DPS... If you approve of healer DPS, why are you arguing with all these people who approve of healer DPS as well?

I do approve healer DPS. I even respect the player that does it really well. I fully understand the benefits from it and certainly not because I was told here.

Since it seems that you only "tried" to see my point and failed to understand it, I'll try another approche. What about ABC ? Why do players do that ? There's no BLM NPC that say always be casting. But that something that matters a lot for BLM. Other casters uptime is weaving, but BLM in particular is ABC. That's because the first most gameplay mechanic of OCC is astral fire and umbral ice, timed buffs that you have to keep up. Wich means stop casting = loose the buff. The actual buff is pretty long and loosing it because you're not casting enough is unlikely to happen but the sense of unrgency is here. And became (too ?) real once enochian made it's way into the game. And even loosing enochian wasn't such a dramatic DPS loss as ARR rotation still landed decent damage in waiting. But you couldn't use that flashy super high damage Fire 4 and that was enough to make anyone understand that you have to keep Enochian up, and keep astral fire up. See, this is design induced.

The most efficient solution may exist but if it's not the obvious and simple answer (simple, not easy. Uptime is simple to get, but hard to apply), lot of players won't simply reach to it. And as already underligned, there's a lot a things that would comfort players in general in to continuing playing that way. There's one healer in dungeon each dungeon, there's few communication between players in them, healers tend to get a lot of commend because they're are healer, the average level is closer to them that the uptime crazy SCH and bad attitude of mostly premade lv gain players will comfort them that what they're doing is right, even if it's standing here doing nothing. And even if they pick up healer DPS later in the game, it's not gonna do wonders. As Sebazy already underlined : even some DPS aren't doing wonders at expert dungeon, so what about healer who have no experience about handling huge pack of mob doing anything else than healing ? Well tank will die, tank will pull less and they would think that they're just not cut for this. So yeah, no NPC told me about all this. But I've encoutered this many times and is newer player than certain intervenants here, I also did that more recently in a game that someone said have changed a lot. I personnally didn't read the hall of novice dialogue, I was just running into the gate saying "I don't care I know this, give me my stuff !"

What I'm against is players gatekeeping the game, like saying someone shouldn't play FF XIV. Because that's the kind of reasoning that make speople affraid of healing, that makes SE want to have low healer requirement and only high burst healing spells. Because they want a theme parc where everyone can come and play Final Fantasy, not somewhere were you have to weave and ABC. It's that exact kind of comment that's hurting the game, player doing non healer DPS is nothing but a consequence of that.
What I'm in favor of is that player can learn and providing an environement that encourage doing so is better than just having someone tell them do so.

You're a little hard to follow here =(

I think you're saying that we've gotten more burst healing abilities over the last two expansions which has opened up more opportunities for healer DPS?

I'm trying to organize my though while trying ot speak to something like five or six people doing relay nitpick at every thing, I'm doing my best here.

But What I'm saying here is much more simple than that. Earlier I said that MP were restrictive in a poor way and I think everyone stopped on restrictive, but what I mean is that it was poor. Maybe it meants something in ARR but exactly as you say it, it's doesn't really mean anything now outside of "you can't just stand in the middle of the fight and press medica every GCD". It does punish death a bit in healing heavy fights (I kinda regretted not melding some prog piety on non-BiS items while doing Neo) but nothing more. That's why I'm saying it's poor and not saying it's restrictive.
I pretty sure I just said that someone spamming cure 2 on the tank on brayflox will get OOM fast. So they will only cast when needed and watch intensly the tank HP bar while doing nothing else. And still get commends for it because lot of people aren't paying that much attention. Things like that just happen.

What I'm talking about is nothing more than improved lily/eatherflow system that actually work as designed : do something to get ressources, use said resources to do stronger thing. I'm not even sure why is every so dead set of nitpicking that. Espcially to say "why couldn't healer do DPS ?!!" while I'm saying that it should be encourage by the game in a more intuitive way.
Because everyone hate to be told what they have to do, be it tutorials or from some kind of autority.