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  1. #11
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    Altera's Avatar
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I feel pretty disappointed to the point of quitting the BLM job, or even take a break from XIV until further proper changes happens. This long waiting period, and this is all we get? Meeeehhh
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  2. #12
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    Lina_Slayer's Avatar
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    Lina Slayer
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    Exodus
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I think the Firestarter change is just to make the two procs equal in time, the important proc change is TC duration, that can give a little more dps and will help with mobility, however the only true dps change we will get is the F4 boost, that unless it is massive will not be nearly enough (I can bet with anyone it is going to be 280 only).
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  3. #13
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    Tzain Nival
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    I feel pretty disappointed to the point of quitting the BLM job,
    If I'm being brutally honest. I can't describe this as 'disappointment' because it's about what I expected to happen.

    Although I'm happy with the transpose and AM changes. When I'm level synched low enough to not have the 'III' spells I tend to use transpose to flow between AF, UI and back. Many times I end up in UI with full MP and Transpose still on cooldown. And 30 second AM was just....weird considering how situational it was.
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    I play FFXIV because I enjoy it.
    Sometimes I have to remind myself of that simple fact.

  4. #14
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    I feel pretty disappointed to the point of quitting the BLM job, or even take a break from XIV until further proper changes happens. This long waiting period, and this is all we get? Meeeehhh
    I expected nothing, and still am disappointed. Somehow.
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  5. #15
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    yeah, if the F4 potency increase doesnt merit blm as raw dps (no utility),... than I'll be leaving my blm (main) and sticking to smn (which imo isnt ideal on the ps4)

    what are the japanese forum reactions and potency buff expectations??
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  6. #16
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Scholar Lv 70
    F4 potency is outright good, and that transpose fix is pure QOL. Thundercloud is also QOL, though only fixes half its issues. Would rather it make it oGCD so we don't have overwrite issues, but whatever. Fine.

    The AM change is basically irrelevant. I can't remember it ever being on CD when I needed it. Still a movement ability dependent on OTHER players.

    Still no time to weave oGCDs. If F3 made the first F4 cast faster, then we could shove them in then.
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    Last edited by jstamos; 01-20-2018 at 03:14 AM.

  7. #17
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    Harold Saxon
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    It depends on the Fire 4 potency increase. Given that they aren't touching SAM, I doubt it will be a large enough increase. Honestly the changes are underwhelming and it will still remain in the trash tier - maybe it will be above SAM now depending on the potency buff.

    The proc changes are near meaningless when not combined with other changes. Manip's change won't really affect things.

    Imo for a "major" patch, the changes are lazy, and clearly not done by someone that plays the class. Triple Melee is going to be more effective than running a single caster. Double Ranged will still be more effective than running BLM.
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  8. #18
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    Harold Saxon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
    I think the Firestarter change is just to make the two procs equal in time, the important proc change is TC duration, that can give a little more dps and will help with mobility, however the only true dps change we will get is the F4 boost, that unless it is massive will not be nearly enough (I can bet with anyone it is going to be 280 only).
    It will be near meaningless if you know how to manage your procs already.

    Quote Originally Posted by jstamos View Post
    F4 potency is outright good, and that transpose fix is pure QOL. Thundercloud is also QOL, though only fixes half its issues. Would rather it make it oGCD so we don't have overwrite issues, but whatever. Fine.

    The AM change is basically irrelevant. I can't remember it ever being on CD when I needed it. Still a movement ability dependent on OTHER players.

    Still no time to weave oGCDs. If F3 made the first F4 cast faster, then we could shove them in then.
    You don't know what the potency change is. Transpose fix is meaningless. Thundercloud change doesn't fix any issues. OGCD Thunder would cause more issues and not fit with the class for the OGCD reasons you said youtself.
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  9. #19
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    You don't know what the potency change is. Transpose fix is meaningless. Thundercloud change doesn't fix any issues. OGCD Thunder would cause more issues and not fit with the class for the OGCD reasons you said youtself.
    Uh it doesn't matter? A potency increase is always good, even if it's not enough.

    Transpose is 100% not meaningless before max level; when you don't have F3/B3 avilable, you max out on MP before you can transpose back. And it's QOL, like I said, nothing more, to have a bigger window to keep Enochian up when there's no targets.

    Thundercloud change keeps it up until you can get into Umbral so it isn't wasted, but fine point on the oGCD.

    Does this fix BLM? No. Are these changes completely meaningless? No, especially for people leveling the class.

    You don't really seem to understand the class enough to be commenting on it.
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  10. #20
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    Clown Conductor
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Transpose fix isn't meaningless, the way foul works you can transpose and mess with your cds during certain parts of fights where you are just standing there to try to get two fouls set up. So no I don't see that change being completely awful as people are making it seem. The am timer being reduced was expected and quite frankly I can think of many scenarios where its useful. (Susano ex jumping inbetween the middle during lightning is one of them). The fire and thunder procs are there to make the class easier to play so indifferent about that. Lastly fire iv potency buffed regardless of the increase its still a BUFF. I'll take what I can get at this point. People expecting complete overhauls or even changes to gameplay need to take a step back and look when did they ever change a class in a patch that wasn't an expansion?
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