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    Myrhn's Avatar
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
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    Your own Yoshi P quote explain what im saying so i dont know what else u looking into. If u cant understand that and just divergise to say that the dev have said that dps is needed to clear content i dont know what to say. The whole thing about dev balance it for a higher ilvl that the one required is just opinion. I know of ppl that have beat the mim ilvl challange of some Coil run i belive where they give u a tittle and no healer dps was done.
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Your own Yoshi P quote explain what im saying so i dont know what else u looking into. If u cant understand that and just divergise to say that the dev have said that dps is needed to clear content i dont know what to say.
    Read the quote again. He says "people who are at world's first level, their goal is to clear it at as low an item level as possible, lower than the one assumed during development". As you (probably) know, people who are competing for world's first do meet the item level requirements, so he's not talking about that, he's talking about them not meeting the item level "assumed during development". In other words, the content is balanced to be cleared at higher item level than the item level requirement and what's available for players when the content is added to the game.

    Of course, Omega has been made significantly easier than any other previous tier, and it may well be that this quote does not apply anymore. However, what really matters, much more than what the developers have to say on the topic, are the numbers. So the simplest thing really is to just look and see what beating a fight requires DPS-wise, and what kind of performance it demands from DDs and tanks if healers aren't participating (to anything but healing). Then compare that performance requirement level between different roles and consider if it seems fair. If everyone in the group can get by with 50% activity or effectiveness, it probably is. If 90% activity / effectiveness is required from some while only 40 % activity/effectiviness is required from others, it probably isn't.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Your own Yoshi P quote explain what im saying so i dont know what else u looking into. If u cant understand that and just divergise to say that the dev have said that dps is needed to clear content i dont know what to say. The whole thing about dev balance it for a higher ilvl that the one required is just opinion. I know of ppl that have beat the mim ilvl challange of some Coil run i belive where they give u a tittle and no healer dps was done.
    No, read the damn thing before you comment. You're completely wrong. It says flat out that at that level of play healer DPS is required because people don't have the gear to clear without it.
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