Community: The Biggest Loss of 4.0 PvP

[Squintina]

As nice as that quote was, the revamp of 4.X and its issues was barely a mention, and was among "many many other reasons".

So I don't think your friend is that torn up over 4.0 pvp. From that quote it sounds like trying to become good at pvp was already getting to be too much strain mentally and even in past seasons they couldn't finish the Feast. This person would have quit pvp regardless of anything 4.0 would or wouldn't have done.

To me it just sounds like you're over-interpreting what was said because you personally want something to justify what you feel as a loss of community and a loss of interest.

When it truth communities in games go through cycles and those cycles would have happened anyway. Some people quit (for whatever reason), some people are stubborn over new changes, whatever. That isn't to say there aren't new people who DO get that feeling from the new pvp, who DO build communities from the new pvp, who DO want to get better. There have, and always will be, people who just don't take it seriously - it only is more noticeable because there are more people trying out pvp.

It's not different than how some FCs go on, other FCs die, new FCs are born. Lifecycles.

I'm enjoying pvp despite that I've never been much of a pvper (and I really suck at it lol), and I see other people who talk about pvp and go do PVP matches together. I learned how to pvp from someone on the NN dueling with me. There's even a big discord chat full of people who ask questions, talk about matches, etc... Community is what you make of it. Everything community-wise you were able to do before you can do in 4.X.

I'm not saying your loss is invalid. If you feel it, then it's valid. But that loss is not universal because that experience would change so drastically from one player to another, nor is it absolute because you can go find new people to teach, to hang out with, to build a new serious pvp community together.