Just realized something: FFXIV is a terrible DPS player's DREAM come true...

[Sebazy]

i am pretty sure Krotoan was talking about Titan hm. yes, the three hm primals were endgame back in 2.0 and people wiped for months on them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...M-Titan-Fight? good old times ^^

^^^ This

Titan HM was an absolute slugfest when it was current and required for the Relic step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXvfHESJw5s was a great example of what it was like even with people who knew the encounter.

It's actually an interesting comparison to PF pugs we see today since it was formed in a similar manner (Basically out of a collection of linkshells of people who wanted to either help with or clear Titan).

[CosmicKirby]

^^^ This

Titan HM was an absolute slugfest when it was current and required for the Relic step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXvfHESJw5s was a great example of what it was like even with people who knew the encounter.

It's actually an interesting comparison to PF pugs we see today since it was formed in a similar manner (Basically out of a collection of linkshells of people who wanted to either help with or clear Titan).

Worth noting, that until the tail end of that content, the netcode for dodging AoEs was FAR LESS forgiving. You basically had to be near a full second of standing outside of the AoE to register that you dodged it, as the server was either having issues or took that long to ping back your new location.