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  1. #13631
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    ilea's Avatar
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    Ile'a Nahvi
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I zone in to Gubal Library (Normal) and see you, tank, in ilevel 120 ironworks and vendor-bought accessories (also 120). Oh great.

    But then, a sparkle of hope: "One second, forgot my updated gear!"

    So you should have a Vault set on you, right? Aery? Okay, you're probably levelling an alt class; I can make do with vendor-bought 139/145. That's totally fine.

    What I don't expect is your "updated gear" to be two left side pieces from the Aery. That's it. You have maybe 1k HP more than the SAM, and your weapon is 120, too. But you don't seem to see any problem in me spamming Adlo/Lustrate while the two DPS rip off of you in seconds.

    ... sigh.
    (7)

  2. #13632
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Just wondering because that dungeon was part of release, would you of tolerated that In the drowned city of Sklla? the entry requirement is i300, when the BLM had a i285 weapon with no foul. Plus they where not using thunder or fire II regularly for packs.

    As far as i am understanding, "There is no excuse to not having your skills, acceptable gear, and job knowledge in current content"
    Hmmm... would probably depend on his attitude.
    If he responds well to "hey you should use AoE skills for packs" and "you really should go do your job quest ASAP after this", then I'd give him a chance, and if he doesn't hold the group back beyond that (mechanics are still handled OK etc), I wouldn't kick him outright. But would still stress the importance of up-to-date gear and having all his skills, and that groups would be well within their rights to kick him if he doesn't fix the problem.
    If his attitude were anything worse than that, say hello to Mr. Boot.
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  3. #13633
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    Leadleaf's Avatar
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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    stuff
    The "this isn't raid lol" is the new "you don't pay my sub" for kneejerking with against any comment that'd go against playing subpar.
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  4. #13634
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Character
    Shadow Link
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadleaf View Post
    The "this isn't raid lol" is the new "you don't pay my sub" for kneejerking with against any comment that'd go against playing subpar.
    I have found this attitude quite often, lately.

    I remember running Castrum while leveling on my DPS jobs. We had some new players around. Last boss, I typed "Reload all 4 cannons, use an AoE regen in the center and fire, that way all adds will gather in the center so we can kill them without having to run around like headless chikens. Then repeat again and we're done!" one of the DPS (who wasn't new) started to make fun of me, telling the people about quantum physics and being extremely precise or we would get banned, etc, etc, mocking me with false compliments because I wanted to do an strat on a facerolleable content. Which I agree, it's pretty facerolleable but... what was the need of being such an a**hole? Sometimes, these "casual" players are the most toxic people you can find.
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  5. #13635
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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Character
    Ilyrian Silvermoon
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadleaf View Post
    The "this isn't raid lol" is the new "you don't pay my sub" for kneejerking with against any comment that'd go against playing subpar.
    The last person who said that to me got the answer of "be glad I don't pay your sub because if I did, not only would I cancel it, I'd sling your computer out of a window and ban you from the internet."
    Or at least I would say that - it hasn't actually come up yet (but I live in hope) and I generally pretend I'm in a squadron run when doing daily roulettes. And if any drama is occurring I stay silent and go to my happy place (which is generally aided by a bottle of wine).
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  6. #13636
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    Ul'dah
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    Ugh....
    Just came out of a trials roulette...we cleared, but wow, I am astounded. The WHM in the group gets a stack marker before the sword phase. For some reason, they took Susano's pushback near me, and so they were on my side when they got the stack marker (I am a PLD). For whatever reason, they stopped short of me - I wasn't chasing them, I have Susano to deal with. They never passed me to get to the party...nothing. They just stopped...and died.

    I'm not gonna die with you, WHM.

    So while I'm getting ready to grab the sword, the WHM asks what they're supposed to do.

    Seriously? How did you get past Baelsar's Wall and not know what to do with the stack marker? Or the first two SB dungeons? So me being snarky ol' Kaiva, I said 'It's a stack marker...what do you think you do?'

    Sure, my heals were slow after that and I actually had to go into Shield Oath, but...I don't regret what I said.
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  7. #13637
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    Hmmm... would probably depend on his attitude.
    If he responds well to "hey you should use AoE skills for packs" and "you really should go do your job quest ASAP after this", then I'd give him a chance, and if he doesn't hold the group back beyond that (mechanics are still handled OK etc), I wouldn't kick him outright. But would still stress the importance of up-to-date gear and having all his skills, and that groups would be well within their rights to kick him if he doesn't fix the problem.
    If his attitude were anything worse than that, say hello to Mr. Boot.
    They kicked them for long periods of silence only to get a reply on something on the lines of "why are your questioning my gear"
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  8. #13638
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Crysten Kimura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    My feelings on Expert roulette right now after yesterday's farce:



    This time I got a PLD in i270 right side and a RDM that hardcasts Verthunder and Veraero in Drowned City of Skalla. Some days I often wonder if at a young age I may have been victim to a gypsy curse.
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    Last edited by Crysten; 01-07-2018 at 02:50 AM.

  9. #13639
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Character
    Saito Hikari
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    ^ Haha, I had something not quite as bad two nights ago, but still pretty bad. I decide to go White Mage for the first time in two months, and I end up with a Dragoon in Skalla that did less DPS than I do against single target bosses (which is to say really awful considering I'm no raid-tier healer or anything). He kept dropping every mechanic on every other party member too.

    I'm like, yeah, this is why I switched to full time Bard. At least the tanks and healers won't suffer with me around.
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  10. #13640
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    I just covered a healer, who was happy to take aoe damage from the boss and that instant killed me. :f
    With the great power comes great responsibilities i guess.
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