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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    As much as I like FF, this shady deal makes me angry. Even though I would never buy things like that. I'm sorry for all of you Hardcore Fans out there.
    I wonder why Japan and NA are not affected. I would like to hear what Mr. "please look forward to it " has to say about that move.
    JP page has the “one character only” footnote on the product page. As of this comment, only the NA store is lacking said footnote, but I’m sure it will be ninja’d in any day now. I was going to pre-order the artbook with some Christmas money, but now I don’t even want to just to make a statement that I disagree with this change.
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  2. #52
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    I seriously don't buy the technical limitation restriction, even if that is true, they should had work out some sort of solution rather than passing the burden to the customer. Imo, they are testing the waters now and if we don't push back, it will likely become a norm in the future. Unfortunately, unless we get enough people to boycott future physical merchandise or put them under the social spotlight like EA's BF2 and their lootbox drama (I'm aware these two issues aren't of the same scale, just sayin'), it's unlikely that SE will withdraw their decision.

    For me? I was initially considering getting the artbook just for the Yotsuyu minion but now I think I'll probably just pass on it. Personally I don't need the bonus on my alt but this double-dipping business decision is just downright awful. I'm just going to vote with my wallet.
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    My guess they are doing this since they have plans to release the minion on the mogstation in the future. Maybe that is in their intent all along. Have the minion be a timed exclusive tied to the artbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    My guess they are doing this since they have plans to release the minion on the mogstation in the future. Maybe that is in their intent all along. Have the minion be a timed exclusive tied to the artbook.
    Still doesn't excuse why there's a need to change it to character only. In fact, if that's the case, there's a larger reason to be account wide instead. Like the kupo glamour set from the 16 fan feast. If you get it as a bonus back then, it's account wide. After they add it to the kupo store, it's character only. That way it can be consider a bonus and kind gesture to the people who supported the fan feast while giving new players a chance to obtain the item as well at a higher price.
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    more upset that I'd have to buy a $40 paper weight for her. That's if the book didn't go straight in the trash if I DID buy it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
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    While I agree it does not excuse them, thing is if they can make extra money from people buying more then one artbook now, and in the future having people buy the minion off the mog station and if said change works out for them and they end up netting a profit can you really blame them?

    While the whole mog station thing is speculation, from a business perspective it sort of makes sense even though I personally do not agree with it. Though while not proud I am one of those players that buys more then one mount, outfit, and minion for different characters. I also doubt I am alone in this practice. So at the very least I do hope they toss the minion on the mogstation while I am willing to buy more then one minion, mount or outfit off the mogstation I am not willing to buy more then one copy of the artbook or physical product for a digital item.

    Sure I hope things stay the same, but if they do plan on going through with this change I do hope they add the item on mogstation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    While I agree it does not excuse them, thing is if they can make extra money from people buying more then one artbook now, and in the future having people buy the minion off the mog station and if said change works out for them and they end up netting a profit can you really blame them?

    While the whole mog station thing is speculation, from a business perspective it sort of makes sense even though I personally do not agree with it. Though while not proud I am one of those players that buys more then one mount, outfit, and minion for different characters. I also doubt I am alone in this practice. So at the very least I do hope they toss the minion on the mogstation while I am willing to buy more then one minion, mount or outfit off the mogstation I am not willing to buy more then one copy of the artbook or physical product for a digital item.

    Sure I hope things stay the same, but if they do plan on going through with this change I do hope they add the item on mogstation.
    Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not against them putting the minion on the kupo store. After all, I am never a fan of exclusivity. However, these two topics (physical merchandise's digital bonus item going character only & putting said bonus item on the kupo store) aren't mutually exclusive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaina View Post
    more upset that I'd have to buy a $40 paper weight for her. That's if the book didn't go straight in the trash if I DID buy it...
    Understand you might not be interested in the artbook, but that's something the artist pour their heart and soul into and was brought by your hard earn gil (cash). Maybe try giving it to a friend or someone who might be interested in the book instead? Not trying to tell you on what to do with your gil, but it just felt like such a waste of a good product...
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    While I have never bought merchandise JUST for the item codes, it IS a major selling point in terms of both buying the merchandise early, and directly from SE. If the codes are no longer account-wide, then I no longer have any incentive not to just wait until I can get the merchandise second-hand at a discount.

    Reconsider, SE, this is a terrible change that will cost you sales, especially considering the bonus is made of pixels and costs you no more to give to all characters on an account than it would to give it to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    I don't know how many of us actually buy these products just for the in-game items, but if this change will affect your decision to purchase, please reply here!
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    This is very disheartening. I was initially considering preordering the art book myself just for the book itself, wasn't that excited about the minion as Yotsuyu isn't my favorite character and I'm not a completionist collector - but after reading this, I think I'm gonna hold off buying any physical merchandise from them at all, item code or no, until there's a change in this new trend or an apology, word on why such a change would even be considered, something. Because I think the playerbase deserves that at least.

    I can understand making items on the cash shop one character only even if I think some of them are overpriced, but I think all items attached to physical merchandise should be account wide because it makes no sense why players should need to order doubles just to get an item on multiple characters across a single account. I'm sure it makes all the sense in the world to SE, but as a paying customer I can't accept their excuse when it brings to mind that thread from a while back where the OP was asking if there was a mistake when he had to choose a character for those orchestrion scrolls. There's shady business practices, and then there's underhanded and misleading representation of shady business practices, and I think that giving a customer an expectation and then letting that customer think they are getting their expectation until after they've made the purchase is something that needs to be addressed. For me, it's the principle of the thing. I just can't support what's being done here.

    (Hopefully this is somewhat coherent as I'm posting at 2am. If not, whatever. Just know that I am one who was strongly considering ordering the art book but won't be buying it now because I can't get behind SE's decision or the way they've handled it. )
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