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  1. #1
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    Sakuraluna's Avatar
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    This is very disheartening. I was initially considering preordering the art book myself just for the book itself, wasn't that excited about the minion as Yotsuyu isn't my favorite character and I'm not a completionist collector - but after reading this, I think I'm gonna hold off buying any physical merchandise from them at all, item code or no, until there's a change in this new trend or an apology, word on why such a change would even be considered, something. Because I think the playerbase deserves that at least.

    I can understand making items on the cash shop one character only even if I think some of them are overpriced, but I think all items attached to physical merchandise should be account wide because it makes no sense why players should need to order doubles just to get an item on multiple characters across a single account. I'm sure it makes all the sense in the world to SE, but as a paying customer I can't accept their excuse when it brings to mind that thread from a while back where the OP was asking if there was a mistake when he had to choose a character for those orchestrion scrolls. There's shady business practices, and then there's underhanded and misleading representation of shady business practices, and I think that giving a customer an expectation and then letting that customer think they are getting their expectation until after they've made the purchase is something that needs to be addressed. For me, it's the principle of the thing. I just can't support what's being done here.

    (Hopefully this is somewhat coherent as I'm posting at 2am. If not, whatever. Just know that I am one who was strongly considering ordering the art book but won't be buying it now because I can't get behind SE's decision or the way they've handled it. )
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    Last edited by Sakuraluna; 01-06-2018 at 04:17 PM.


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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Is SE trying to see if fewer people spending more money will be more profitable than more people spending less money? I don't know. Don't count on this minion later being on the Mog Station though because that has only happened to very few exclusive items. The fact that this being for single character only wasn't clearly mentioned on the product page is pretty shady and worth bringing to people's attention.

    In any case, us customers can affect their stats with our buying decisions. If you don't support having to pay for multiple physical items that have no use for you to get digital items, don't pay. If you don't support having to pay for any physical items that have no use for you to get digital items, don't pay. If you don't support single character digital items in the Mog Station or don't support the Mog Station as a whole, don't pay. Maybe those stats will make them reconsider their ways to do business.
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    EvinnaReed's Avatar
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    Evinna Reed
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    Goblin
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    Not happy about this. Especially not happy because the change was made AFTER I ALREADY PUT MONEY DOWN. Like, if they have to change all minions and bonuses to one character only, I am okay with that IF:

    1. They will be available on mogstation at a later date
    2. They explain what is going on and why this change ABSOLUTELY HAS to be made
    3. They make the orchestration rolls and yotsuyu minion account wide as the change happened AFTER money was put down.

    However, I am of the opinion that bonuses for ALL physical merchandise that we have to pay shipping for should be account wide as a courtesy.
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    Camille Blythe
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    My compromise that probably no one but me will appreciate. Buy the physical doo-dad and you get an account-wide minion/emote/mount/whatever. You pay that much, you shouldn't have to settle for anything less. Now, later on... maybe a year or so... release a single-character only version on the mog station.

    Maybe that last part is a bit self-serving, because I am not buying the physical items no matter what. Even if they were what I consider cheap I wouldn't buy them. Mainly that's because I can do without the clutter in my life. Odd reason perhaps, but hey I never said I wasn't a weirdo. I do like to buy in-game things every now and then, so I would like to see the bonuses available at some point.
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    My compromise that probably no one but me will appreciate. Buy the physical doo-dad and you get an account-wide minion/emote/mount/whatever. You pay that much, you shouldn't have to settle for anything less. Now, later on... maybe a year or so... release a single-character only version on the mog station.
    That's literally what they've been doing so far with the few promotional items that were tied to other things (FanFest for instance) that ended up in the Mog Station. SE already did that in the past. Now they're just mucking it up by removing the account-wide from the original version :\
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    Camille Blythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    That's literally what they've been doing so far with the few promotional items that were tied to other things (FanFest for instance) that ended up in the Mog Station. SE already did that in the past. Now they're just mucking it up by removing the account-wide from the original version :\
    Ok then the first part is still valid right? Go back to account wide for those who buy the physical item?
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    Galen Leventis
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I'm truly not a big fan of this change. If the technical limitation is such an issue then why did they just release TWO mounts that are also account-wide? I can understand the calls to the server when a person makes a new account might be pretty intense (I get a good 60ish mogmails on a new character) but surely people with large amounts of items aren't making new characters so often that it's a massive issue?

    A game this size should be able to handle it.

    Either way, I think it's shady as all heck that they changed this after people had already put down money on the items and personally it will be stopping me from buying the symphony bluray ... as I already own the CD and would only want the orchestrion rolls , and I can't share estates with my alts so I can't simply put the music in their homes that way.
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    My thoughts on the matter...
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I've never liked that many of the Mogstation items are character specific...



    But...
    An item that you have to buy physical merchandise to get, and now those are now only going to apply to a single character?!

    I just...
    I can't come up with anything to say that I wouldn't regret saying later...
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    Lua Kahra
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    SE has been really shady lately lol they've been changing too many things like this. Even if I wouldn't buy the physical items only for the minion, the fact that they change things like this after opening the pre-order makes me question what direction they're going with exclusive and MogStation items. I don't feel like supporting it anymore tbh.
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  10. #10
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Bumping this back up to the top alongside the concerns about the code on Eorzean Symphony.

    SE, this shady sneaking around and changing things that have had a 4 year precedent for how they work is not okay, and we are not okay with it.
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