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    I've never felt starved for choice in the real world. Many clothing stores offer a wide range of clothing for men and some specialise solely in such things. In FFXIV, however, I often feel like I'm cast aside and given less opportunities for daring to play a male character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    In FFXIV, however, I often feel like I'm cast aside and given less opportunities for daring to play a male character.
    While males might have not as much selection as females, stating that you're 'cast aside' because of you being playing a male is exaggerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    While males might have not as much selection as females, stating that you're 'cast aside' because of you being playing a male is exaggerated.
    It's really not. This thread alone has numerous examples as to how it happens - some of which are even listed on recent pages. It is also no secret that glamour is in itself a huge focus for many players, myself included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's really not. This thread alone has numerous examples as to how it happens - some of which are even listed on recent pages. It is also no secret that glamour is in itself a huge focus for many players, myself included.
    We are, what, the basic game plus 2 expansions in now? There are hundreds of items you can choose from to mix and match for yourself to get your personalized outfit together, so I can't phantom the problem that this is such a gamebreaker for you (referring to you , not the group in this forum).

    Yes, there is a inequality of outfits around between the genders, and I can acknowledge this. But if you're hard pressed for creating outfits for yourself despite the already huge selection available to you at this moment, however, then I highly doubt it'll be different when SE all of the sudden whips out a dozen of new ones with more emphasis on males.

    Instead, people victim blame SE for the apparent divide between gender clothes, repeatedly bash their artists for their choices and blow it up to proportion just because complaining is fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    We are, what, the basic game plus 2 expansions in now? There are hundreds of items you can choose from to mix and match for yourself to get your personalized outfit together, so I can't phantom the problem that this is such a gamebreaker for you (referring to you , not the group in this forum).

    Yes, there is a inequality of outfits around between the genders, and I can acknowledge this. But if you're hard pressed for creating outfits for yourself despite the already huge selection available to you at this moment, however, then I highly doubt it'll be different when SE all of the sudden whips out a dozen of new ones with more emphasis on males.

    Instead, people victim blame SE for the apparent divide between gender clothes, repeatedly bash their artists for their choices and blow it up to proportion just because complaining is fun.

    I understand where you are comming from, but I wouldnt call it a huge selection, when alot of items that males wear are copy-pasta. Just look at the latest crafting gear, guys get meh outfit that looks alot like what they already have and us females get a nice new dress.

    As for people blaming SE for the äparent divide", they are doing it, because there is a divide. Female avatars get more detailed outfits, more options and more glamour in general, the males dont. I used to play a male avatar, but since I like to glamour my character, I have decided to roll a female avatar. Atleast this way, I know that I wont get rehashed pants #452
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    I just want to add, our devs make the ugliest pants I've seen.... and this goes for the vast majority of them.

    .... if they are going to make a skirt... just make a skirt. Don't add pants to the skirt as well. We also have far too many "clownish" pants as well. My point is, our leg-wear is severely lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I understand where you are comming from, but I wouldnt call it a huge selection, when alot of items that males wear are copy-pasta. Just look at the latest crafting gear, guys get meh outfit that looks alot like what they already have and us females get a nice new dress.
    If you can't call the available items you can get a 'huge selection', then nothing will change whatever SE throws in. You either need to be more creative, or seek the sources of glamour pages for inspiration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    As for people blaming SE for the äparent divide", they are doing it, because there is a divide. Female avatars get more detailed outfits, more options and more glamour in general, the males dont. I used to play a male avatar, but since I like to glamour my character, I have decided to roll a female avatar. Atleast this way, I know that I wont get rehashed pants #452
    I am fine with what we got now. And while you can hope for an improvement of the vanity gear from their side, SE owes them nothing. Drumming up the drama and fingerpoint at the artists for being inconsiderate won't make them move an inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    If you can't call the available items you can get a 'huge selection', then nothing will change whatever SE throws in. You either need to be more creative, or seek the sources of glamour pages for inspiration.



    I am fine with what we got now. And while you can hope for an improvement of the vanity gear from their side, SE owes them nothing. Drumming up the drama and fingerpoint at the artists for being inconsiderate won't make them move an inch.

    What we have is better than what was available in 2.x, yes. That doesn't mean there isn't a fair amount of hideous armor models, not to mention we tend to get things primarily in the same vein style wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    There are many, MANY fashion choices for men, both cheap and expensive. Both designer and Wal-Mart brand. Fashion choices from all eras. Males in real life can also wear female clothing and vice versa.
    There is no overlord that immediately teleports to a man's house and rips his "Juicy" print sweatspants and his bunny ears off.

    Real life argument is stupid.
    And by the end of a day its still a choice between dress and jeans, jacket or sweater. xD
    Some have strips, some have cat logos on them.

    But yes i do agree, glamour and stuff you want your character to have on its a game itself, and there should be more options no matter what.
    Also more options for face changes would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    What we have is better than what was available in 2.x, yes. That doesn't mean there isn't a fair amount of hideous armor models, not to mention we tend to get things primarily in the same vein style wise.
    It was understandable in HW, with zones full of snow, tundras and few places of mild temperatures, which reflected on most of the gear style (more function than fashion).

    They did disappoint on giving something else on Stormblood, though - Alone that there have been no new dyes to reflect Kugane's vibrant style is sad, especially since there is a whole color section of muddy browns that many don't bother and that could've been the perfect opportunity to slap something new in there.
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