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    It's pretty silly that you're more likely to get banned trying to get a bot banned then the bot itself.

    Especially because of the fact that some of them are only half-AFK and have their main account actually playing at the same time, so they could easily just check back on the bot, notice that a player was doing a bot check of some sort that could be flimsily considered as "harassment" (I've heard of people getting jailed for leaving a trade window open on a bot just once...nevermind that a real player would quickly just close it and move on with their business) then report you for it.

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    Actually... You be surprised, most of the people who Own bots don't care about the sub and stuff so they won't be thinking "I may no Wana do it" , allot of MMO have declare war to Bots.... No a single one has won, hell WE ended worse then the bots because it came to the point the innocent player where getting ban.
    I'm no defending Bots, but logic won't work. Is just gonna Become endless war where we never gonna get stuff to play seeing as XIV money limited by SE.
    Blizzard has been doing a good job of dealing with bots in WoW, actually, enough that I'd say they're winning the war.

    Mostly because they have the sense to target the makers of the bot programs instead of the ones using them. They somewhat recently filed a lawsuit against one of the major bot creators (Which also makes XIV bots...), and they won.

    It's a pity they couldn't gotten the entire company axed instead of just the bots affecting their game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It's pretty silly that you're more likely to get banned trying to get a bot banned then the bot itself.
    It's even more of a Issue if the Issue itself (The Names on the Picture) are actually 100% Bots.

    If someone names himself kahdskhapf laslifghalksfh, well.... that just calls for trouble in any Social Way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It's pretty silly that you're more likely to get banned trying to get a bot banned then the bot itself.
    Lot easier to prove violations on forums than ingame. Also mods seem more zealous about it.

    On issue of bots, I favor not fighting them. Attempts to curtail bots tend to affect normal players more than bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    Lot easier to prove violations on forums than ingame. Also mods seem more zealous about it.
    Maybe it works if we say :

    The Bots are harrassing me, they allow me not to enjoy the Game anymore, now I'm sad and I was hurt.
    *sarcasm*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    On issue of bots, I favor not fighting them. Attempts to curtail bots tend to affect normal players more than bots.
    That "The fish sense something amiss" thing was such a terrible way of discouraging fishing bots that I wish they'd just axe it entirely since it hasn't worked since the ARR days.

    It would make sense for them to at least have a capcha or some other security feature on both log-in and account creation to discourage the fully automated gil farmers, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It would make sense for them to at least have a capcha or some other security feature on both log-in and account creation to discourage the fully automated gil farmers, though.
    Captchas can be decoded and fully automated by Software, that's already history since a long time by now, probably 10 Years if not more so?
    It needs more then that, basically Weekly Change of a Anti-Cheat Software or a regulare Packet Change so the Bots start to behave weirdly or even break.

    That of course... is time consuming, it's a brutal neverending Fight for a MMORPG.

    There is a good Example on how Bots affect a Game.

    ... looking back at Silkroad Online... ya, the Company gave up 2 Years after it's release and it has been overtaken by Bots, like... 1 Player owned 50 Goldbots ...
    It wasn't even a Seller Company, it was the Community itself that told "Legit Players" to look for another Game to No Life for and playing with Hands had no Place in such a Game.

    Just Memories by now but ya, I sure wouldn't want to see someone call me a No Lifer just because I use my Hands to play...
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