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  1. #61
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    New record is Floor 198 by japanese red mage.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    New record is Floor 198 by japanese red mage.
    I can't even begin to imagine how they felt being so close and yet still falling short. I am admittedly very curious as to how it occurred; did they wipe to a mob or trap, or did they simply run out of time? wish the lodestone told us more
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    Last edited by Louvain; 01-04-2018 at 01:27 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    New record is Floor 198 by japanese red mage.
    So?

    Even if some people clear it in the next months or years, the same players will die at low 180s levels with a bit less luck.
    Having 22 different pomander while actually wanting only 2-3 specific((strength), defense, rage), that is a ~10% chance of getting the right items during the last 18 levels. If you get none of them, you are running out of time or waste all your other pomander.
    I wish we could balance bad luck a bit out, or this is just another epic grind achievement.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    So?

    Even if some people clear it in the next months or years, the same players will die at low 180s levels with a bit less luck.
    Having 22 different pomander while actually wanting only 2-3 specific((strength), defense, rage), that is a ~10% chance of getting the right items during the last 18 levels. If you get none of them, you are running out of time or waste all your other pomander.
    I wish we could balance bad luck a bit out, or this is just another epic grind achievement.
    ^ This.

    Usagi looks to be the only one really trying right now. They got to 194 in the beginning of the month, now 198. Frankly, if they achieve it (which, honestly, I have faith they will), my first kneejerk reaction will be "nice, they won the lottery" not "damn that's one skilled/god player". There really wouldn't be any other reason anyone would clear 200 without literally hitting the jackpot multiple times in succession. If that's OK with developers...then there is nothing us, the playerbase, can do about it, sadly.
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  5. #65
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    not sure what they did to the behemoth to make it soloable past the last 20% since i did it so long ago.
    but 181-199 can wipe whole parties with one misstep, it must be like wining the lottery to get a combination of factors that lets you get through it solo and gold chests for more pomanders must certainly be out of the question since mimics at that point are so nasty

    It honestly feels more like luck than skill since all the necessary skill is just knowing what mobs do what
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    not sure what they did to the behemoth to make it soloable past the last 20% since i did it so long ago.
    but 181-199 can wipe whole parties with one misstep, it must be like wining the lottery to get a combination of factors that lets you get through it solo and gold chests for more pomanders must certainly be out of the question since mimics at that point are so nasty

    It honestly feels more like luck than skill since all the necessary skill is just knowing what mobs do what
    Behemoth is fairly easy on RDM. Any other job its close to impossible.
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  7. #67
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    i am going to try i am a Pld main i will try and make it to 200 if i am lucky i am 50-50 if i am gona use dps or tank
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    If the achievement become more lenient and is fine if we will start from 51, I'll go thru 1-50 anyway, to get a full load of pomanders I know I will starve of, later.
    But those pomanders will not do much if you plan to go to 200 because you can only get 3 per pomander anyway. Depending on your RNG you might not have them at 101 either because you needed them in lower floors.

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    About someone getting to 198. Well I wish them all the best luck to get to 200 (and lets not forget that if they want the title they have to always try from 1 again..which are so many hours) but even if they somehow manage to do that I would still say that its nearly impossible because they would have only won out of sheer luck. (Yes skill too but in the end luck is the biggest factor..sadly..) This would still mean that SE should change it up..because they theoretically could make a savage run with pure RNG and someone might be able to win it but that would still make it a bad design descision..


    Quote Originally Posted by MiniOmegaDragon View Post
    i am going to try i am a Pld main i will try and make it to 200 if i am lucky i am 50-50 if i am gona use dps or tank
    Sorry if that sounds harsh but it would be a waste of time to try this with any other job than redmage. Tanks dont have enough DPS to do the DPS checks and any other DD will not be able to survive the hard hitting attacks. People have tried and there are some higher ups tanks and DDs but there is a reason why anyone after 170/180 only try this with redmage.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 01-04-2018 at 06:28 PM.
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  9. #69
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    I feel like we're prepping to dismiss this JP guys floor 200 solo clear before it's even been done.

    If they get floor 200 solo it won't be just pure luck, it'll be luck combined with knowing what they're doing and practicing it. Sure, the luck factor should be much less important, but 99% of players, even if they were even luckier than this guy, wouldn't be capable of making it as far.
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  10. #70
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I feel like we're prepping to dismiss this JP guys floor 200 solo clear before it's even been done.

    If they get floor 200 solo it won't be just pure luck, it'll be luck combined with knowing what they're doing and practicing it. Sure, the luck factor should be much less important, but 99% of players, even if they were even luckier than this guy, wouldn't be capable of making it as far.
    ya, theres a lot of knowledge behind. You need to know the rotation of almost every 150+ enemy, to be prepared for tank hits, you have to know which enemies to avoid at all, how they can detect you etc.

    90% of it is still luck tho :P
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