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    "...but it will be a redesign..."

    As I said, char limit, but that was a thought of mine as well. But not necessary.

    But, you say that something "would/will outshine" - that's an assumption of your part, not a logical necessity. It's possible that a new healer with those traits would NOT outshine. AST was initially undertuned, if I recall correctly. A melee/TP healer could be balanced by simply making its DPS roughly on par with a SCH's "nominal" (not great but not poor player) DPS. It would be "easier" since it would be passively part of their "rotation", but that doesn't mean "better". Again, a RDM that heals instead of casting DPS abilities, but has something like PLD's Riot Blade as a 3 point melee combo would fit in just fine with the current meta and give people a "different" feeling healer to play. Dancer/Blue Mage could fit.

    I do agree that buff/support and debuffing really isn't fleshed out in this game enough to warrant a separate entry, though. But there are possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
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    Except that yoshi has said many times that he wants healers to get away from trying to push DPS. So making a DPSing healer seem very unlikely as it breaks what Yoshi wants to see happen to healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Except that yoshi has said many times that he wants healers to get away from trying to push DPS. So making a DPSing healer seem very unlikely as it breaks what Yoshi wants to see happen to healers.
    He did? I remember him commenting about his disdain for cleric stance as well as the whole Gordias balancing saga. I don't ever remember him outright stating that he doesn't want healers to be pushing DPS tho? Got a quote or link for any of those times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    He did? I remember him commenting about his disdain for cleric stance as well as the whole Gordias balancing saga. I don't ever remember him outright stating that he doesn't want healers to be pushing DPS tho? Got a quote or link for any of those times?
    I'm sure I can find one but he mentioned he wanted healers to focus on healing more in one of the live letters before StormBlood release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    I'm sure I can find one but he mentioned he wanted healers to focus on healing more in one of the live letters before StormBlood release.
    I believe this is from an Email interview he did with Mr. Happy:

    He said that the dev team doesn't expect healers to DPS or for it to be mandatory but he knows a lot of endgame healers like that aspect of the role, so they wanted to make it more approachable and less punishing (by making damage based on Mind and removing the Cleric-Stance-Dance).
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