Either SMN and RDM should lose their Raise or BLM should get a Raise.

[Llugen]

Here's the deal though, Cyn. It's already "unjustly spread." And keeping it off of BLM is only making the situation worse because it means BLMs shunned out.

Not sure if you read my post about my experience in unending the other night, but it's going to take a LOT of "raw damage" to compete with SMN, where in Nael phase I was able to get off FOUR full raises (two swift two slow) and maintain top damage on the boss (the DRG and the BRD both died and both healers), and still almost make it to enrage (we died to the last thermionic beam because not enough bodies)



Frankly, NO amount of "raw damage" can compete with that, and that's the problem I've been trying to illustrate in this thread. This game is a team effort especially at the high end, and when your caster choice(s) are either "play BLM for 'the damage' when you could have taken SAM for 'the damage' anyway, or play SMN/RDM for decent damage AND access to recovery", it's pretty obvious which choice is more alluring.


This is why it either deserves a nerf across the role, or BLM deserves access to it (the title of the thread). I think we have a better shot at the latter as a community trying to express issues with balance to the developers.


Frankly still, if they do some completely left-field blanket fix like "oh ok well here's Resurrection in the role pool! You're welcome!" Literally ALL of us are going to collectively facepalm. This is all part of why this is such a touchy (and heated) subject.

[Cynfael]

Here's the deal though, Cyn. It's already "unjustly spread." And keeping it off of BLM is only making the situation worse because it means BLMs shunned out.

I recognize that your intentions are good, and I don’t think you are truly off the mark.

I’m more of the mindset that resurrection skills outside of the Healer role need to be dialed back, though RDM would require some tweaking if they lost their rez-dispenser niche.

There’s a larger issue of physical vs. magical DPS comps at play, and I think there is a major problem when no one seems to care that the former group cannot raise but seems to expect that the latter group be able to do so. Ideally, if NIN, MCH, and what-have-you are considered healthy and viable without raise, it should be possible to bring BLM to that level.