Please make cash-shop stuff earn-able in game

[Belhi]

They should add a system to obtain Mog Shop items in game. Maybe not immediately, but after a year? Event items originally obtained ingame go to the cash shop after a year (without any means to reobtain them otherwise), so why not be "fair" and do it the other way around too.

I'm bring sarcastic here btw, SE will not do any of it while they can get away with milking the players on their cash shop for event items that every f2p game would make available in subsequent years to players that just started or missed the event and while people paying more than a month's worth of sub for their overpriced mounts. Honestly, I wouldn't have such a big issue with this cash shop thing, if prices were reasonable, but a month sub for a mount??? And before people start bashing at me, I'm more than able to afford them, I just refuse to throw any more money at them as long as they have these outrageous prices, while at the same time having one of the most expensive subs out there.

Most expensive subs? Its one of the few MMOs with a sub. What other subs are you comparing it to?

The prices are probably set based on projected sales and revenue. They might sell more with a lower price but the question would be if it was enough more to make up for the less money made per sale. People get paid a lot of money to forecast that stuff and build budget projections.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Others games (WoW, BnS or GW2) offer a fair system for this and they still make money out of it. The option is there.

Are you kidding? I played B&S for a couple months and their outfits ranged from $10-15, had far more frequent updates, exclusives and eventually introduced lootboxes. Their progression system is also tied to obtaining specific weapons to break down. Guess where you got those if you didn't want to spend hours upon hours fighting RNG? Lootboxes! Come to think of it, the Valentines dress was gated behind a $25 price tag. Compare that to the Songbird outfit and emote that were given to us through an in-game event. Like the Mogstation or not, let's not go painting false pictures here. Blade and Soul's cash shop is no different than your typical F2P, and far worse than XIV's.

[Reinha]

I don't like the idea of in-game rewards being available in the shop. It seems a lot like P2W to me. Holiday items are unavailable in the game by the time they go in the shop so that's more to do with making those (easily obtained) items available to latecomers. But imagine Fenrir/Ixion/Firebird etc being sold while people are still working on getting them in game. Not cool.

Recolors of some cash shop stuff would be nice to have in game though.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You know what WoW, GW2 and BnS had in common? All three games allow you to convert gold into cash shop currency (well, with WoW is even better). Sure, BnS business model is crap, so? That's beside the point.

And the common misconception about that practice is that Blizzard and NCSoft aren't still getting paid. Someone else had to purchase the WoW subscription token to put it on the market, after all. Blizzard couldn't care less where the money comes from so long as it lines their pockets. In the case of GW2 and BnS, their respective cash shops profit significantly higher than FFXIV despite its sub. There's a reason F2P games bring in substantially higher revenue.

[Derio]

No actually ESO and DCUO have subs that are 14.99/15.99.

FFXIV has one of the cheapest subs around even compared to F2P games that use a sub model. And those games also have a cash shop, while they have cheaper prices than our shop for mounts, dyes, etc, I dont believe they have the quality of content that FFXIV has.

I appreciate the cash shop in ffxiv. If the rumors are true, it is the reason SE was able to drop the PS3 and use double the budget of HW for SB.

[Felis]

Most of the items are already obtainable ingame. 1 year before it show up in the mog shop for around 2 weeks

[LastFireAce]

Doubt this will happened, mog station has proven is Worth. Outside of this Yoshi is NOT in charge of MS, is Queen who is in charge and she basically her on head the only thing Yoshi and her communicate at is when she need to know his future development plan...

[alimdia]

I cant speak for BnS but both WoW and GW2's system are dependent on having another system in game which sells gold for real life money. Since many of those who object to the cash shop, also object to the idea of SE selling in game currency its likely this option wouldn't be a fix most people upset would be happy with.

Those people upset with a possible crysta - gil conversion are scared of a boogeyman, gil is already used mostly for vanity and furniture, you can't buy tome gear or raid gear with gil, there's no pay to win.

Inflation happens? Good, maybe more people will decide to participate in the market instead of leaving it to a couple crafters to dominate everything. It's no coincidence inflation is not a problem in servers with a high number of crafters.

Doubt this will happened, mog station has proven is Worth. Outside of this Yoshi is NOT in charge of MS, is Queen who is in charge and she basically her on head the only thing Yoshi and her communicate at is when she need to know his future development plan...

The "producer" part of his title means the cash shop team has to go through him.

[Belhi]

Those people upset with a possible crysta - gil conversion are scared of a boogeyman, gil is already used mostly for vanity and furniture, you can't buy tome gear or raid gear with gil, there's no pay to win.

Inflation happens? Good, maybe more people will decide to participate in the market instead of leaving it to a couple crafters to dominate everything. It's no coincidence inflation is not a problem in servers with a high number of crafters.

Well there is a small window when a new raid tier releases where the new crafted gear is the best available and people will pay a lot of gil for it, materia and consumables so its not wholly true. It might not be BIS but a set of fully Pentamelded HQ combat gear is still pretty damn good for the current tier until late in the tier. Of course you could get around this by simply nerfing the battle gear but that would seriously devalue crafting and gathering which is a very time and gil intensive activity.

As for inflation, if anything it will just mean those who create goods will get more gold making many items even more unaffordable for those who don't engage in things like crafting and gathering and don't buy gil.

The "producer" part of his title means the cash shop team has to go through him.

Actually he has said that any cash shop items are green lit by a someone he calls 'the empress of the Mogstation'. She decides what is developed for sale or not based upon what is the expected sales verse the cost of development. Case in point was the Krile outfit which had some technical hurdles to be overcome if it was to be developed and so hadn't been green lit yet over concerns that its sales wouldn't sufficiently cover the amount of time and cost it would take to make the outfit work for all player models.

[freja_eorzea]

Thanks for the thoughtful responses. I made the OP a little tongue-in-cheek and maybe should have just added to an original one called "I hate the cash-shop".

It's like that gold-leaf wallpaper is awesome but I don't even want it if it's just for cash. Make me craft one of everything in-game. Hell, make me craft ten and I'd probably do it. It would be nice to have something to work towards.

And in my opinion it seems like the trend is starting to be the better stuff going to the mogstation. The starlight bear is cool, but the carbuncle mount is objectively way cooler. It could probably be scientifically measured.

I didn't know about the process for how the items are selected so thanks for informing me. I wasn't trying to come across as whiny or entitled in the OP. I guess I'd just like more stuff to work towards and don't get enjoyment from the items I pay cash for.

I also love the level 68 crafted gear and use it for my tank and healer. Looks like a battle mage