Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[spagthetapdancer]

That person's standaerds is the point of this thread, people not living up to those.

We are complaining about including but not limited to:
spaming 1,1,1,1,1
"I do not aoe because it costs too much tp"
being in an expert for 15 mins and only clearing the first boss, allowing a vote abandon request to be thrown since kicking a single person wouldn't fix the problem.
Spaming 1,1,1 with huge time gaps after CD is ready
spaming actions out of combo
brds putting dots on one monster
forever no bane SMNs in mass pulls
etc.

So yeah might be a good idea to read the posts better.

I did. days ago. my problem is that I don't trust you or anyone to have restraint with their standards. to keep them realistic, or really anything reasonable. Because while you might get people those things, I get "skip soar or disband" (I'm not joining those when I just came back from a break and arrive 3 weeks into the patch) or ilvl 320 requirements on Susano EX learning parties(current). I get one dude flipping out that people learning those EX's aren't pushing out 4200+ dps in patch 4.05.

Because the players in this game don't advertise their minimum acceptable standards in a group. they set standards that allow them leeway to make smooth, efficient runs with little to no wipes even when their group is learning. that has been my experience: people throwing the meta around like a beating stick even when it isn't appropriate. people using the top performers as a means of bullying the middle or lower end because it hurts their bottom line.

Why would I trust random peoples' standards if the bulk of the standards people I run into hold are like that? why would I allow others to subject me to theirs if I don't trust them to use moderation? I don't have to blindly trust what HyoMinPark because she blatantly explained hers with a degree of clarity. all you've posted in a list of exaggerated grievances with particularly clueless players no one in their right mind would support a group being subjected to. it's clearly hyperbolic even if the sheer quantity of players in this game guarantees they at least exist.