Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Tempest222]

Yeah if it had been in the middle of the fight I would have rezzed, but literally the healer died and then a second later the boss went down. So I figured why take the penalty going into the trash. And with the wipes on trash first the tank would die and then the healer and then me. When the tank would go down I didn’t go straight for the Rez bc I didn’t want to step on healers toes because I’ve seen people post about being annoyed by heal happy red mages. So I just figured the healer would get it and then by the time I realized that wasn’t gonna happen I was dead too.

So yeah only things I personally could have done would be to jump straight on the rezzes, which I thought o was doing the right thing by not doing given the circumstances.

So yeah, I feel bad about obviously not doing what the group wanted and even worse not realizing there was even an issue. But even so, I feel like if things started going south because the tank was dying that's clearly not the fault of the red mage, though obviously they were expecting me to fix it I suppose.

Edit: just figured out how to view the players I've recently played with, and all three from that run were from the same FC, so that kind of makes me feel a little better tbh, like it wasn't just three random people who had never seen eachother before and wordlessly all agreed I needed to go.

[StarRosie]

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! If there is one thing I hate more then inconsiderate tanks, it is inconsiderate tanks who can't keep the bosses still! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

BREATHS!

Ok, I was running The Vault with the wife, doing leveling for my SAM (Really loving this job, omg so much fun!) and I noticed the tank was trying to multi pull right out of the gate. First group of The Vault and he tries to drag them off to the next to do a multi pull but gets stopped by the gates. Ok, no big deal, I've handled this before. AOE everything to death.

Oh but wait...the healer is new...and this is their first time here. Welp! Putting my mentor pants on! I try to help but the tank just won't stop for a single second. Even once we get to the bosses and I try to explain things quickly. But, I can only get the quick bullet point versions of each boss. Then the big problem of the run starts...the tank won't keep the bosses still. He is running all over the arenas...for no reason! He's just running the bosses around and causing me to miss my Iaijutsu and lose Kaitens and my wife to miss armor crush and lose huton. Just...utter frustration.

The healer on the other hand...did just fine and seemed at least a little grateful for what advice I was able to get out for the boss fights. So at least there is a small victory there I guess. Got to do my mentor gig a bit, was nice.

I don't know, I'm mostly venting from a really frustrating vault run. Sorry if this sounds spiteful.

[Lissandra]

More a random question than anything interesting.

Did a dungeon today and I as blm use manashift on the healer, and some point after one of the manashifts he immediately says "you serious?". I reply with a ? and he never says anything further. His mp wasn't hurting but my manashift was not enough to top him to max either. My question is, is there a reason to get offended to getting free mp (assuming that was why he said what he did)?

Also, we had 2 blms and the other one never used his once.

[Tridus]

More a random question than anything interesting.

Did a dungeon today and I as blm use manashift on the healer, and some point after one of the manashifts he immediately says "you serious?". I reply with a ? and he never says anything further. His mp wasn't hurting but my manashift was not enough to top him to max either. My question is, is there a reason to get offended to getting free mp (assuming that was why he said what he did)?

Never seen that before. Most healers greatly appreciate Mana Shift. Seems weird not to.

[Tridus]

Ever had a Rabanastre group wipe three times in the first ten minutes? I can now say that I have.

First time around, nobody puts up markers, and hardly anyone DPSed Aqua Spheres. It took a couple of healers a minute to get anyone else to stand in the geyzer thing to remove that, but it hardly matters when two spheres don't die and there's adds everywhere. Chaos later, wipe.

Second wipe was when someone who disconnected during the first wipe reconnected while people were running back, and reappeared already in range of the boss. That didn't take long.

Third wipe was actually getting past Aqua Spheres the first time, but people deciding to try to burn the boss down from 30% instead of doing them the second time, and failing to do so.

It turned into one of those revolving door groups after that with people leaving and being replaced. After trying to reform for a couple of minutes with this going on, I joined the quitters. I know they had a fourth wipe because a friend didn't get out before the next pull, which was missing people... with predictable results. Vote abandon came out after that.

We just queued in again after that fiasco and had a somewhat messy but no wipe clear, so good enough.

(Also did a Halitali in levelling roulette with a tank who said "fast run, keep up", and delivered. Guy was on point, keeping things moving but never overwhelming the group. Even said a few words about what to expect on bosses. Would love to see him again.)

[SeriousxSarcasm]

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well tbh it's considered an emergency skill. Something you use in bad raids when healers can't avoid blowing all their MP. Using it several times during your run (a casual dungeon where it's sounds like it wasn't really needed) when you could've been pouring that MP into your own astral fire dps uptime, would cause some eyebrow raises from an experienced healer that knows how to manage their mana pool. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes you look inexperienced with how/when to use skills like that, or implies that you think the healer is incompetent.

And no you often will never see a caster dps bother with manashift except in dire circumstances, that's likely why you didn't see the other BLM using it. I don't think the healer meant what they said in a rude way, they probably were just thinking "lol wtf are they doing? this isn't rabanastre." XD

[Lissandra]

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Those may be true, but I've never had anyone complain before till now. They tend to like it most of the time. To each their own. :x

EDIT: I never use them during boss fights unless I think I have to, but eh.

[ChloeGrace]

I normally avoid Ex Roulette, mostly because it tends to have the second highest quota of bads (leveling is the worst).
But it was just after reset and I need tomestones. Queue as 339 bard, get Skalla with 3 mentors.
The tank proceeded to do a ready check before every pull, then only pull one group at a time. The whole dungeon.
The AST was so focused on card, she wouldn't heal, leading to several close calls with us DPS - I'm talking <1k health. Why were the DPS getting hit? The tank couldn't/wouldn't hold hate, and kept cleaving people.
The SAM would never AoE, just single target one thing down then move on to the next nearest target.
I couldn't tell if they were bad, lazy or both.

[Minako_Nightsong]

For big pulls on WHM, I recommend...

Swiftcast Holy -> Aero III (Assize) -> Regen

And go from there. Don't be afraid to weave in Holy even if you're still getting comfortable DPSing. I primarily use it so quickly for the Stun. That way if the tank needs extra spot healing, I can either use Assize earlier, Tetra or Cure II. Definitely try to keep Regen up. Another tip, especially if things are on cooldown from an earlier pull, is toss at Cure on the tank at some point during the pull to get a Lily proc for Divine Bension. Try to time this after they do an Overpower/Unleash/Flash. That way it won't effect aggro and gives you just a little more breathing room.
Hope that helps.

I am going to start doing this swiftcast into holy on some of these packs! I have been using regular regen after the pulls and eye for an eye before monsters are pulled. I also weave divine benison into the heals once we are engaged as well as trying to pre-shield the tank when possible. I really should use my assize more strategically. I do have this guilty pleasure of saving my thin air and lagresse(sp?) for some pulls then spamming holy for the light show. ( like on those stupid pugs in Ali Mihgo) I have a hard time using my holy in Skalla because all these monsters have telegraphed aoes.

Keep the stories coming!

[Iscah]

Just a minor issue, but I've started leveling Monk in the daily roulette and twice in the last few days I've had bosses where the tank and other-DPS are near-equal in enmity and standing on opposite sides of the boss - so it keeps doing 180-degree turns. Makes positionals not much fun when you start to move from its flank to its rear and by the time you've got there, it's now the front instead....