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  1. #41
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    You haven't heard? The guys who made those mounts are the very same who do everything else in the game.
    All the dev companies I worked for over the years who split things into teams have done it all wrong
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  2. #42
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    Sekkei's Avatar
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    ...I want. I want so bad. Now to resist really hard until there's a sale that includes them. Already waiting for a certain ohohoho minion to fall under one x.x hnnngh
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  4. #43
    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    dont even care that its on the mogstation, what im more peeved about is that they are asking you to spend another 24$ for a literal recolor of the exact same thing.

    This should have been a buy 1 get the other free thing, 48$ for two mounts, and the second mount is the exact same with a different color? you can forget that.


    THeres a reason i havnt bought the bennu, cos the ZU ingame works just as well.


    This is a stupid decision.
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    Last edited by LeeraSorlan; 12-26-2017 at 06:37 PM.

  5. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    But this is Final Fantasy and you either pay for what you want in the cash shop or you go without. Price be damned.
    Price isn't going to stop those who want to get the items and that's the simple truth. Also, yes, those are F2P games.
    Which means they don't get the same kind of care and updates that a subscription game would.
    Which also means they need to do more to entice players so they can compete with subscription based games.

    Edit
    Also you sound incredibly bitter. Why are you playing if you're so unhappy?
    It doesn't matter what the game's name is or how many people can be pressured into parting with their coin, if acquiring all content in this game costs more money than purchasing the entirety of the sims 3 game and expansions (a game that was blasted for its excessiveuse of dlc and content packs) four times, then yeah, FFXIV is an overpriced game. Compare WoW, the only other popular game with a sub (but that's technically optional as you can earn one with in-game currency now) and a cash shop. WoW has added 29 items into its store over the course of some 13 years(not including services/consumables), FFXIV has added 183 over the course of 4. And while Wildstar receives minor (but still regular) updates to its game over the course of a year (due to many factors not related to its gameplay or monetization), GW2 has major content patches near quarterly with new fully voiced story quests, new zones with new objectives and events, and new raids (not bosses in a box like xiv, but areas that would be comparable to ARR zones).
    Oh and I'm still playing because I find raiding with my friends fun. And it sucks because I want to love this game as I love the world and the lore and its overall style, but it's hard when game companies, not just XIV/SE mind you, seem to enjoy preying on people like me who play games as collectors, who like going through content to collect the shiniest treasures to customize our personal avatars to the best of our abilities, and milking us for all that we've got while holding back objectives that could've had fun and engaging gameplay elements, all the while people blinded by fandom excuse this behavior because "well it doesn't affect my enjoyment so it must be ok!"
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    ~sigh~

  6. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
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    They're not forcing you to do anything. My favorite color is blue.
    I have no interest in the yellow Carbuncle. They are not making me buy it.
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  7. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    Couldnt say if any better myself. I love FF but they have started being no better that the EA or Activision. The increase in outfits, emotes and recycled seasonal items is appalling and all this from a company that still wants you to pay for your space in-game. Some free to plays dont even ask you to do that! Its becoming apparent that SE is getting greedy af...$18 for an outfit? I could get 3 outfits in Warframe with change to spare and its a F2p.
    Comparing the Mogstation to EA or Activision's practices shows a complete lack of awareness regarding said practices. EA built an entire game where your only means of progression is an enormous grind or to pay for the mere chance at actually getting what you want. Activision, through Budgie, reduced endgame EXP without saying a word and when caught, promptly doubled the requirements. Now do explain how a vanity item that serves no function beyond your standard Chocobo compares to either Stars Wars: Battlefront II or Destiny? If Eureka releases with lootboxes and has a substantially higher level than even Savage, then you can make this comparison.

    As for carving out content. These items are specifically designed for the sole purpose of making additional profit. If the Mogstation didn't exist neither would these mounts. While some companies are more exploitative than others, DLC and micro-transactions are generally developed separately to keep a game profitable beyond its initial release. If people ever mass boycotted to the point neither were profitable, they wouldn't just gift you the content as a reward in-game. They wouldn't make it to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    "Just vanity" is a bad argument, aesthetics and customization are a core aspect of the experience. Also, FFXIV cash shop is no longer vanity only.
    And the overwhelming majority of vanity is released with patch cycles or expansions. You still get your core aspect. Just not necessarily everything. Do tell how it isn't vanity only. Nothing on the Mogstation influences endgame whatsoever.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 12-26-2017 at 06:37 PM.

  8. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
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    Except no one is forcing you to do anything, as I mentioned to Leera. You only have to pay for the base game you want to play and the subscription. That's all you have to pay. If you're a collector, then just collect the things in the game and pretend the MS doesn't even exist. Once again, this all boils down to you being upset that you have to spend more money for something you want. Unfortunately sometimes you have to do that and no amount of foot stomping is going to change SE - or any company for that matter. Enjoy the game as it is - a game. You don't have to have everything.
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  9. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    <snip> If people ever mass boycotted to the point neither were profitable, they wouldn't just gift you the content as a reward in-game. They wouldn't make it to begin with.
    This right here. This says it all - if it's not making a profit for a company, extra things aren't worth it.
    If it's not making money for a company, you get the new event happening at the end of this month - dog hats that hardly anyone will ever wear.
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  10. #49
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    Can we have lootboxes now?
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  11. #50
    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    They're not forcing you to do anything. My favorite color is blue.
    I have no interest in the yellow Carbuncle. They are not making me buy it.
    I edited this cos i knew somoene would take my words too literally. Forcing meaning if you want both, you are forced to spend double on both for the same thing.
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