Carbuncle mounts have arrived!

[Urthdigger]

When the cash shop first came out, I swore up and down I would never purchase anything from there, that I would not sully the game with paying extra money on top of my sub!

...I may have just blown some fat stacks on an outfit and mount. Damnit SE...

[LittleChickenNugget]

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But think of how fabulous you're going to look.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

When the cash shop first came out, I swore up and down I would never purchase anything from there, that I would not sully the game with paying extra money on top of my sub!

...I may have just blown some fat stacks on an outfit and mount. Damnit SE...

I like to think of it this way. Unlike certain other games, FFXIV stated upfront they would never include anything but vanity items and have kept to that promise for three years now. Even their prices have remained relatively consistent, though I do find some items overpriced (looking at you Choco-clock). I can appreciate it still rubbing people the wrong way but I don't mind it myself because of the aforementioned consistency. And the fact we still get plenty of free mounts and glamour.

[Roda]

I like to think of it this way. Unlike certain other games, FFXIV stated upfront they would never include anything but vanity items and have kept to that promise for three years now. Even their prices have remained relatively consistent, though I do find some items overpriced (looking at you Choco-clock). I can appreciate it still rubbing people the wrong way but I don't mind it myself because of the aforementioned consistency. And the fact we still get plenty of free mounts and glamour.

Except for all those character advancement things they added so you can pay them even more to not play their game.

And we don't get anything in this game for free past level 35. The game has a box price, two expansions and a sub fee. If you don't pay your dues then you lose access to everything you've already paid for.


Also just because it's vanity doesn't make it ok to carve out of the game's rewards and place a second price tag on it. Glamour wouldn't be called the true endgame if cosmetics weren't considered content by a large portion of the MMO community.

[Lathander81]

Also just because it's vanity doesn't make it ok to carve out of the game's rewards and place a second price tag on it. Glamour wouldn't be called the true endgame if cosmetics weren't considered content by a large portion of the MMO community.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Couldnt say if any better myself. I love FF but they have started being no better that the EA or Activision. The increase in outfits, emotes and recycled seasonal items is appalling and all this from a company that still wants you to pay for your space in-game. Some free to plays dont even ask you to do that! Its becoming apparent that SE is getting greedy af...$18 for an outfit? I could get 3 outfits in Warframe with change to spare and its a F2p.

[Roda]

Couldnt say if any better myself. I love FF but they have started being no better that the EA or Activision. The increase in outfits, emotes and recycled seasonal items is appalling and all this from a company that still wants you to pay for your space in-game. Some free to plays dont even ask you to do that! Its becoming apparent that SE is getting greedy af...$18 for an outfit? I could get 3 outfits in Warframe with change to spare and its a F2p.

Here's some more comparisons!

GW2 would give you two outfits for that price. F2P game with two expansions ($29.99 each or 49.99 for a bundle of both)
Wilstar would give you two as well. F2P game.
Both games have their costumes account-bound and immediately stored in systems that don't clutter your inventory.
Oh and both have abilities to earn their cash shop content by either trading in game currency (to reduce inflation) or by simply playing the game!
AND on top of all that you can access your content, bought or earned, any time you want with no extra fees!


Oh and you're selling warframe a bit short. $15 can get you 6 immortal skins or 2 tenno suit sets.


With the dungeons being cut from every other major content update, and the servers being moved from one bad spot to another slightly different bad spot, I'm really wondering why xiv seems to cost so much to play....

[LittleChickenNugget]

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But this is Final Fantasy and you either pay for what you want in the cash shop or you go without. Price be damned.
Price isn't going to stop those who want to get the items and that's the simple truth. Also, yes, those are F2P games.
Which means they don't get the same kind of care and updates that a subscription game would.
Which also means they need to do more to entice players so they can compete with subscription based games.

Edit
Also you sound incredibly bitter. Why are you playing if you're so unhappy?

[Roda]

But this is Final Fantasy and you either pay for what you want in the cash shop or you go without. Price be damned.
Price isn't going to stop those who want to get the items and that's the simple truth. Also, yes, those are F2P games.
Which means they don't get the same kind of care and updates that a subscription game would.
Which also means they need to do more to entice players so they can compete with subscription based games.

Edit
Also you sound incredibly bitter. Why are you playing if you're so unhappy?

It doesn't matter what the game's name is or how many people can be pressured into parting with their coin, if acquiring all content in this game costs more money than purchasing the entirety of the sims 3 game and expansions (a game that was blasted for its excessiveuse of dlc and content packs) four times, then yeah, FFXIV is an overpriced game. Compare WoW, the only other popular game with a sub (but that's technically optional as you can earn one with in-game currency now) and a cash shop. WoW has added 29 items into its store over the course of some 13 years(not including services/consumables), FFXIV has added 183 over the course of 4. And while Wildstar receives minor (but still regular) updates to its game over the course of a year (due to many factors not related to its gameplay or monetization), GW2 has major content patches near quarterly with new fully voiced story quests, new zones with new objectives and events, and new raids (not bosses in a box like xiv, but areas that would be comparable to ARR zones).
Oh and I'm still playing because I find raiding with my friends fun. And it sucks because I want to love this game as I love the world and the lore and its overall style, but it's hard when game companies, not just XIV/SE mind you, seem to enjoy preying on people like me who play games as collectors, who like going through content to collect the shiniest treasures to customize our personal avatars to the best of our abilities, and milking us for all that we've got while holding back objectives that could've had fun and engaging gameplay elements, all the while people blinded by fandom excuse this behavior because "well it doesn't affect my enjoyment so it must be ok!"

[Nezerius]

GW2 would give you two outfits for that price. F2P game with two expansions ($29.99 each or 49.99 for a bundle of both)

On the other hand, changing a character name is more expensive in GW2, and they don't even have a paid option to change your character's race. Both of these are relatively cheap (in comparison to other MMOs, especially WoW) in FFXIV.

Wilstar would give you two as well. F2P game.

People still play Wildstar?

Going by your signature, you seem like a silly person. Since you mentioned GW2 as a comparison, I figured I'd make a similar (silly) list. This list includes all the currently available permanent purchases, as well as 25 dragon's watch dye packs, and 25 metallurgic dye packs. (which likely wouldn't get you all the exclusive dyes anyway). It excludes any purchases with a temporary use.
In total, this'll cost you 142410 gems, with a value of $1780,13, or 37,368 gold and 50 silver (at current gold:gems conversion rates). This wouldn't even get you everything from the gem store, since it doesn't offer everything at the same time.
But hey, at least you don't have to pay anything per month, right?

As for the playable ping part. I play on a NA server while living in the EU, and I've cleared everything except for Ultimate Bahamut (no interest) just fine.

[Nezerius]

I love FF but they have started being no better that the EA or Activision.

The fact that you're comparing the optional items sold in the mogstation, to companies that are using lootboxes, is just hilarious. Do I think the prices could be a little lower? Sure, or perhaps the same price and getting both Emerald and Topaz versions. Is the mogstation anywhere near EA/Activision levels of greed? Not really. At least in the mogstation, you know what you're getting, instead of gambling for it.