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    EllieShadeflare's Avatar
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    A): Red Mage has historically not had access to the top end spells. Oh look you got Holy and Flare..
    This is true, however, it appears that YoshiP and the team chose to consider different ideas for the tradeoff. Notice how Red Mage lacks the Astral Fire/Umbral Ice mechanics, as well as the wide range of healing techniques available to White Mage, including Regen and Medica. At least it keeps itself consistent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    B): Also, if we're talking 1.0 to 2.0, Thaumaturge took a complete 180 from what it was. So if there were no significant rewrites, then damn, I guess you don't have to rewrite anything to justify huge mechanic and theme changes. Probably wouldn't need more than a paragraph for "OH and you can get people back on their feet in a pinch"
    Teensy bit different there, bud. Notice that I said 1.2 > 2.0. This is because 1.2 was a soft reboot of the game, with 1.0 being a hot mess.

    Again, you really didn't pay attention to the lore if you think that it'd only take a paragraph to explain why Black Mage would gain a Healer role ability, when its lore states it as a pure damager.

    And don't pull Memeupo/the 1.0 Thaumaturgy teacher out your butt. He was arrested for using Black Magic, yes, but he was also using more Void Magic... which the 1.0 spells seem to solidify. That's not true Thaumaturgy as we've seen since 1.2, nor is it Black Magic as Shatotto saw it. (Remember, she didn't use Void Magic).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    C): This point about "But infinite MP" is why Llugen constantly calls you on a lack of imagination. You can create tools that serve the same function while having different parameters, or even just have the same tool that is implicitly weighted differently for each class that has access to it.
    You're asking a class.

    Designed for pure damage and damage alone.

    To get a support tool.

    If trying to homogenize the classes is "being imaginative", I don't know what is.

    And don't worry, Llugen. I'm gonna get to your post. It's getting late on my end, but I'm preparing my response and will have it up as soon as I am able.
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    Last edited by EllieShadeflare; 12-24-2017 at 11:09 AM.