Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[HyoMinPark]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

Uhm. I think this game is a game, and I still play like I have at least two braincells to rub together. This is absolutely one of the most ridiculous defenses of shoddy play that I have seen on these forums, and there’s a lot of those around here.

There’s general ignorance about how to play, and then there’s just flat-out lazy play. Ignorance is acceptable if it’s not willful ignorance, and people want to improve their performance so that they aren’t a burden to the other people they get matched with in DF/PF (this is an MMO, after all, not a single-player RPG). This includes accepting advice gracefully—including the “unsolicited” type that are delivered in a respectful, friendly manner. I do not find lazy play acceptable just because one person thinks that to play the game well equates to the game being a “job”. If you’re going to be uncooperative and/or hostile, I don’t want to be in a party with you, or for you to be in my party.

Sadly, this game doesn’t teach anything to prevent the ignorant play (most things have to be learned via external resources when it comes to playing one’s class/job), and it doesn’t punish for lazy play unless you’re in Extreme/Savage/Ultimate content (and even then, the content is still clearable even with a lot of mistakes—9 deaths + healer LB3 and you can usually still clear V4S if your DPS is decent).

If you got the clear then time wasn't wasted.

Disagree. Expert dungeons can be cleared in 15-20 minutes (sometimes even less). If I get stuck with a group that took 45 minutes to get to the last boss, then that is a waste of my time. I could have done 2 Expert dungeons within that time frame, instead of being stuck in one where people don’t know what they’re doing, or are purposely trolling about to be twats.