Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[Kleeya]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

You can hardly call a job the basics teach in the hall in novice like dodging aoes or throwing healing spells, we are not talking of 15 hours per day trainings to get the first world kill on the last raiding boss. And even that would not be called work by most of those who do it for fun or competition.

I suppose that at the very beginning of the first stage of Super Mario Bros you keep pressing only right to die repeatedly on the first goomba, shouting "Why ? Why should i bother pressing another button to jump ? It feels like a job !!!" XD

[Krotoan]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

People will enjoy different parts of the game. Most of us enjoy passing dungeons reasonably quickly and the best way to do that is to know at least the basics of your job and be able to handle the mechanics of the boss and trash. Nobody rock-climbs to fall down. Nobody surfs to drink salt water or embed coral in their back.

You have every right to enjoy the game your way, but just because someone else enjoys it in a measurable way that requires a little effort doesn't make it work.

[Oscura]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

Couldn't even get past the first page without a strawman argument.

[pushin_tin]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

The hilarious irony of this type of sentiment is that the people who choose to play awfully because they "have a life" will take longer to do content because their damage is subpar, whereas those who actually play like they care complete content quickly and can therefore spend less time in the game and more time in "life".

Casual players who do not have a lot of time to play this game stand to benefit the most from learning how to play competently.

[LadyKairi]

What gets me is when people go into the savage fights with poor knowledge of their job. I have been trying to help random groups get V4s clears. I've had whms who use medica 2 as their main source of healing. Aoe damage? Let's spam medica 2! Oh darn now I'm out of mp >3>

[Cakekizyy]

So you are saying it's fine to Waste peoples time after work? By forcing them to make up for you? How nice of ya.

If you got the clear then time wasn't wasted.

[Vstarstruck]

This is a thing from making the game too easy, thus too easy to carry people

The reverse of design will effect players, just look at old ffxi. Was a lot less tolerated there.

If you got the clear then time wasn't wasted.

?????
15-18 mins = GOOD PT! lets toss out coms to each other like Oprah gives away cars
19-25 mins = acceptable
26-35 mins = wonders how people get to this level, esp if "expert" is taking this long
36 mins + likely a troll premade, people standing around not doing nothing

Anything over 30+ is time wasted, there is no reason it should take that long, unless the group is sitting there for a tank replacement (ask ls etc after 2 mins though, works wonders)

If people are taking a long time because they are not listening to advice (like on a 30+ min pace for clear), a kick is valid.

[MoroMurasaki]

Because they think its a game, and you think its a job.

Oh look, there's a new ' dumbest thing I've read on the forums' post.

[Vanitas]

I would make a hello kittys island adventure joke, but that game was actually hard as hell and punished the weak.

[ElHeggunte]

If you got the clear then time wasn't wasted.

I was waiting for this response. It's almost as bad as Riyah's job comment.

"Hey, guys. It only took us 55 minutes to clear something that should have taken 15 minutes, but we did it!"

That's nonsense and you know it.