Constructive opinions on job balances for 5.0

[Dzian]

I wouldn't consider divine veil, divine intervention and cover useless either tbh

they pretty much are though as they don't change anything.

if my pld puts intervention on a war about to eat a tank buster for example. that warrior is still going to get a lustrate or cure2 or something on them after it hits.

if my pld didn't use intervention on that warrior it would still get the exact same heals after that tank buster. so it really doesn't make a difference to the healers for example if a tank uses intervention or not. the outcome is exactly the same. its not intervention is going to reduce the damage from 3 heals to recover to 1 or even 2. so the reality is it just makes no difference.

and then with dps checks and stuff same things applies. 3rd boss of rabanastre for example if that aether things gets to 100 its a wipe. if it's 99 the group survives. there really is no inbetween. at 100 for example no amount of shields or barriers divine veils galvanises sacred soils etc etc are going to save you. and at 99aether you'll likely still survive without any of them barriers up. at no point do those barriers really change anything.

[Llugen]

they pretty much are though as they don't change anything.

if my pld puts intervention on a war about to eat a tank buster for example. that warrior is still going to get a lustrate or cure2 or something on them after it hits.

It makes a difference if they would have been ded

[Remedi]

As Llugen said, if it makes them not diying it does makes a difference

If divine veil avoid the raid diying it makes a difference and there are many aoes in the game where divine veil makes a difference

Frankly Cover can be used in many ways to even prevent switches if used right and is essentially a rampart that allows the MT to skip a CD rotation if used correctly in both casual and hardcore content

[wereotter]

As Llugen said, if it makes them not diying it does makes a difference

If divine veil avoid the raid diying it makes a difference and there are many aoes in the game where divine veil makes a difference

Frankly Cover can be used in many ways to even prevent switches if used right and is essentially a rampart that allows the MT to skip a CD rotation if used correctly in both casual and hardcore content

Cover has been really handy in O4s and Shinryu EX considering as BRD and MCH have no anti-knockback moves.

[Rufalus]

Still need tank stances a lot like in DF you can't rely on people helping with enmity management skills, or if you're progging new high-end duties you prob want that reduction on dmg received sometimes, or to get enmity on adds that pop during a fight when party members enmity dump skills might be on cooldown. If they were removed I'd want some extra cooldown in their place to ease the loss a bit.

Regarding shade for other melee jobs, that sounds interesting, or extend the duration of diversion and reduce its recast time. Agreed on removing drg's piercing debuff to break some synergy and nerf brd/mch a little. Replace the piercing debuff with a drg self buff to maintain drg's dps without helping other jobs. Drg still desirable for litany and eye?

[LeeraSorlan]

Cover has been really handy in O4s and Shinryu EX considering as BRD and MCH have no anti-knockback moves.

Another example is cover + awareness for critical hits in v3s , it can pretty much halve the amount of busters the MT needs to CD through, thus allowing the MT to use more mitigations for random fluff so that the dmg is even lessened. the best part is PLD only needs to use awareness for that cover, because he doesnt need to be healed immediately because thats all the dmg he will take and can be healed later through general aoe healing after raidwides.

[NovaLevossida]

If you're going to have me spamming one main spell for an attack on BLM, at least give me a new animation or tier of it. Fire IV looks nice, but I've been spamming the same spell since 3.0. Give me a Fire V animation or at least let me glamour different elements or something. I can't speak much for actual gameplay changes (we all know the issues) since the January update is going to address some of those. Maybe.

[Aikaal]

If you're going to have me spamming one main spell for an attack on BLM, at least give me a new animation or tier of it. Fire IV looks nice, but I've been spamming the same spell since 3.0. Give me a Fire V animation or at least let me glamour different elements or something. I can't speak much for actual gameplay changes (we all know the issues) since the January update is going to address some of those. Maybe.

To be honest, BLM was a huge disappointment from 3.0 to 4.0. BLM in general is just bleh.

[LeeraSorlan]

To be honest, BLM was a huge disappointment from 3.0 to 4.0. BLM in general is just bleh.

i kind of feel the opposite.I hated BLM in ARR, the nature of my playstyle in general doesnt favour casters, so already BLM was a nightmare. but i enjoyed it in HW (which is when i finally got it leveled) SB blm feels like another imporvement, some aspects felt different, but its still the core BLM, the rotation didnt change too much, and we have more movement tools.


Sure, if you were looking for change, its a disappointment, but if you just wanted subtle things moved around and an easier time at moving, SB BLM is definantly better imo

[Jukebox12]

I love to book smack when their is any buffs